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shish_mish@lemmy.world to United Kingdom@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 years ago

Judges to rule on whether tenants in England have right to keep a pet

www.theguardian.com

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Judges to rule on whether tenants in England have right to keep a pet

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shish_mish@lemmy.world to United Kingdom@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 years ago
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MPs are debating the renters reform bill, which upholds ‘reasonable’ requests by private tenants for a pet
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    This will be of limited value if they don’t also address leasehold restrictions on pets. “No pets” is written into my landlord’s lease (and every leasehold contract I’ve ever seen) so they can’t allow us to have a pet even if they wanted to.

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      Unless they outlaw agents / landlords asking if they have a pet, nothing will change.

      Because you bet your ass they’ll be picking tenants without pets if they don’t want pets.

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      Leaseholds are a nightmare from front to back right? Why are they still a thing.

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        I agree they’re a nightmare, but how else do you deal with situations like a block of flats where you only own one bit of a building?

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          The block of flats would be council owned by the tax payer… taps-head.jif

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            Or the residents. And what if the majority of residents didn’t want pets?

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      Lookup allotments act 1950. Allows you to at least have a rabbit, or chicken if you really want to. Doesn’t matter what’s written in the tenancy agreement. The act overrides it and allows them.

      Lettings agents like to pretend it doesn’t exist and then quietly give up when it’s pointed out to them or they check with their legal people.

      “Abolition of contractual restrictions on keeping hens and rabbits (1)Notwithstanding any provision to the contrary in any lease or tenancy or in any covenant, contract or undertaking relating to the use to be made of any land, it shall be lawful for the occupier of any land to keep, otherwise than by way of trade or business, hens or rabbits in any place on the land and to erect or place and maintain such buildings or structures on the land as are reasonably necessary for that purpose:Provided that nothing in this subsection shall authorise any hens or rabbits to be kept in such a place or in such a manner as to be prejudicial to health or a nuisance or affect the operation of any enactment. (2)This section shall have effect as from the time when Regulation sixty-two B of the Defence (General) Regulations, 1939, ceases to have effect as respects England and Wales.”

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        Ah yes, I’m sure you’re right and the courts are looking at this because they somehow forgot.

        Or maybe the right to keep small livestock on an allotment has nothing to do with keeping a pet in a home?

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          Called allotments act but the way it’s written is more broad and applies. There’s a few articles on it, but so niche hardly anyone knows of it

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            And you’re not linking to any of them because they’re FOTL-style nonsense and you know it?

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              https://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2023/10/17/tenants-want-to-keep-a-pet-make-sure-its-a-hen-or-a-rabbit/

              https://www.property118.com/landlords-must-let-tenants-keep-chickens-and-rabbits/

              https://www.propertymark.co.uk/professional-standards/consumer-guides/tenants/renting-with-pets.html

              http://forums.rabbitrehome.org.uk/archive/index.php/t-331287.html?s=5982f6b904ea05b81116ed15791b87b3

              http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo6/14/31/crossheading/abolition-of-contractual-restrictions-on-keeping-hens-and-rabbits

              Took me a moment to realise what fotl might mean. Is it that sovereign citizen type thing?

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