I would like to explain some more context in the comments before people say things like “I’m denying war crimes”
This was reported a day ago, but open source intelligence had confirmed these reports 8 hours after the attack. All which has been covered in this article, even the Al Jazeera stream that caught the whole thing on camera. (Interestingly, Al Jazeera still reported that it was still caused by Israel I believe based on the same evidence.)
AP was one of the first to report the Gaza Health Ministry said, with the article titled, “Israel strikes hospital, killing 500.” Over the next hours, they edited the article title 3 times, and had to emphasize that it was just a statement by the Gaza Health Ministry.
By then, it had been reported across the media landscape as an Israeli airstrike. Now, considering the past actions of Israel, like that reporter they shot a year or so ago, it’s quite easy to assume that Israel bombed it and tried to cover it up. But, news organizations are not supposed to assume. Instead, we learned that the Gaza Health Ministry, an organization controlled by Hamas, should be taken with a large grain of salt.
Casualties turn out to be far less than 500, more like 50-100. I am in no way minimizing the loss of life. But from a journalistic standpoint, this is a 90% error, a total disaster in reporting.
The NYTimes put out this Editorial reflecting on the error of the Gaza Hospital, comparing it to the error in the 2002 Jenin massacre.
The rush to judgment on Tuesday night will continue to haunt us all.
I’m inclined to agree, especially upon being banned from worldnews on the lemmy.ml instance for “denying war crimes and genocide” by posting this article FROM THE NYTIMES which was reported about a day after the incident.
I’m not trying to report “Pro-Israel” Propoganda, but this should make everyone take a seat back and be very careful when reading news. This conflict is extremely divisive and it’s challenging the status quo in journalism and global politics.
Additionally, news media can get it wrong, but credibility can be gained just as it can be lost, so they should be given a second chance, especially if they admit it, like the AP or the NYTimes did.
Bellingcat did a similar analysis, with similar findings.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/10/18/identifying-possible-crater-from-gaza-hospital-blast/
Yeah there is a thread put out by Geoconfirmed on Twitter, he only geographically locates where footage is, so he’s pretty unbiased.
By basically confirming where and when footage is, putting all the videos of this event together paints a pretty clear picture on its own, even without considering the other evidence.
Hamas and PIJ have always use Hospitals, Schools, and Mosques to hide inside, store weaponry, and fire missiles from.
In every single investigation by outside parties like the UNHRC has found this to be true. They do this because they use the Palestinian people, with the Palestinian people’s blessing, to be used as human shields, knowing if Israel strikes, what should be a sacrosanct community center of religion, or healing, or learning, will be used for anti Israel inflammation in the world forum … like the Fediverse. They communicate to Israel , yeah this is where we’re hiding and storing our weapons above ground, if you hit us here we’re gonna make it hurt in the public relations department.
And even after it’s proven that Hamas and their sycophants have lied, and it’s one of Hamas and/or PIJ’s own rockets which have misfired, landed and killed their people all the yahoos scream bloody murder, and Jews worldwide are targeted.
And then a Rabbi gets stabbed to death outside her home in Detroit.
They do this because they use the Palestinian people, with the Palestinian people’s blessing, to be used as human shields
The “with their blessing” part is the only part I’d quibble with. And then I’d only want to add the context that Hamas was elected as the governing party in 2006 with a plurality, not a majority. They’ve since cancelled all future elections. So the Palestinians can’t rid themselves of Hamas if they wanted to. (At least not via democratic means.)
They could protest, but I think we all know how Hamas would react to Palestinians protesting against them and refusing to obey them.
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I watched this, and upvoted.
Visual analysis according to our occular pat down expert
I can give you other sources, like the Al Jazeera stream, and the analysis provided by Geoconfirmed.
This is publicly available information.
The reason I chose the AP is because they were the first to report what the Gaza Health Ministry said, and reported it as “Israel strikes Hospital, killing 500”.
They do in fact pursue truth and update stories accordingly, to my relief.
Could be, could be not, very hard to say
“Not-for-profit” usually makes them more trustworthy, plus they were the first to report what the Gaza Health Ministry said about the hospital, prematurely too.
The most credible sources report truth and update stories if they are incorrect.
