Answering that directly would be a violation of rule #6.
What should the individual German citizen have done in the 1920s and 1930s to prevent the Nazis from rising to power and/or to resist them once they were in power? Cuz… that.
It’s from the side bar to this sub - if you’re on mobile or something it might not be showing, but the rule states:
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
Hoping for the fatal removal of a few literal supervillians is significantly less violent than allowing them to run rampant on the world, imo, but I’ve been temp banned a few times over “advocating for violence” by pushing for the less violent of the two options. I’m kinda tired of being told to just sit quiet and pretty in the face of a surge in neonazism though, so… fuck it.
I’m not asking people to go full Inglorious Basterds on MAGA or anything… but if you’re one of very few people with the means and opportunity to take a shot at Hitler… please don’t miss.
Unity between lefties and liberals (german communists and socialists) as a common front against the nazi threat would have worked too, but they were busy bickering. That would have helped a lot in the 1930s, but nobody was expecting what was about to happen. We know today what happens when you let fascists in the henhouse, but everyone is doing the same all over again.
I’m fairly left as well, and whenever I brought up strategic voting I was swatted down with “genocide” like the other person. I was event told by multiple “lefty” users that they hoped Trump won just so it would hurt the democratic party and “teach them a lesson”. No matter that we’d be pouring gas on the fire and bringing shit home, they still had to TeAcH tHeM a LeSsOn. Ugh.
The only people who hate leftists more than rightoids are other leftists, and its for shit like that. Moral purity over pragmatism is no different than fanaticism in my eyes. As much as we may hate electoralism, its the only way to work within the system and not let fascists take over. But here we are.
This is the lefty-ist space I’m in anywhere I am on the internet.
I interacted with plenty here who claimed they would not be voting for Kamala due to Israel despite knowing all the horrible shit Trump was going to do.
yea, I was clumsy comparing the german communist and socialist party to those groups in the present-day US, especially given how vague the words left and liberal have become…but the lesson stands. Unity.
Against the government - no of course not. Against the handful of people driving it into the ground - absolutely.
… and what’s ‘fine’ is at the mods’ discretion. I’ve been temp banned several times for having basically this conversation. Thing is, the options on the table right now are sit quietly and let the Nazis continue to take over the US government (shit tons of violence on a massive scale), or in the absence of any form of checks and balances to include effective peaceful protests or voting: cut the snake’s head off (still violence, but the least violent option we have). …but pulling that trolley lever to take the less violent path is still ‘advocating for violence’ here.
We’ll find out soon if this comment crossed the line.
Their constitution has protections on their rights for just such a situation, so they should be quite aware of their rights and what they’re capable of as a people.
What should an individual American do?
Answering that directly would be a violation of rule #6.
What should the individual German citizen have done in the 1920s and 1930s to prevent the Nazis from rising to power and/or to resist them once they were in power? Cuz… that.
I would like to know what rule #6 is. Asking for a friend.
It’s from the side bar to this sub - if you’re on mobile or something it might not be showing, but the rule states:
Hoping for the fatal removal of a few literal supervillians is significantly less violent than allowing them to run rampant on the world, imo, but I’ve been temp banned a few times over “advocating for violence” by pushing for the less violent of the two options. I’m kinda tired of being told to just sit quiet and pretty in the face of a surge in neonazism though, so… fuck it.
I’m not asking people to go full Inglorious Basterds on MAGA or anything… but if you’re one of very few people with the means and opportunity to take a shot at Hitler… please don’t miss.
Unity
between lefties and liberals(german communists and socialists) as a common front against the nazi threat would have worked too, but they were busy bickering. That would have helped a lot in the 1930s, but nobody was expecting what was about to happen. We know today what happens when you let fascists in the henhouse, but everyone is doing the same all over again.Lefties supported Kamala. I dunno where you are getting that they didn’t.
I’m fairly left as well, and whenever I brought up strategic voting I was swatted down with “genocide” like the other person. I was event told by multiple “lefty” users that they hoped Trump won just so it would hurt the democratic party and “teach them a lesson”. No matter that we’d be pouring gas on the fire and bringing shit home, they still had to TeAcH tHeM a LeSsOn. Ugh.
The only people who hate leftists more than rightoids are other leftists, and its for shit like that. Moral purity over pragmatism is no different than fanaticism in my eyes. As much as we may hate electoralism, its the only way to work within the system and not let fascists take over. But here we are.
Reading your post I am reminded of the contempt I felt for the priority police.
That is not the impression I got on Lemmy in the lead up to the election.
All I heard was “genocide”. Trying to bring up anything else was pointless.
Lemmy isn’t exactly “the left”
I’m sure I wasn’t the only one not disagreeing with the genocide that made the calculated decision to vote straight ticket dem anyway.
This is the lefty-ist space I’m in anywhere I am on the internet.
I interacted with plenty here who claimed they would not be voting for Kamala due to Israel despite knowing all the horrible shit Trump was going to do.
Now we all get to live it.
Notice how 90% of them disappeared after the election?
yea, I was clumsy comparing the german communist and socialist party to those groups in the present-day US, especially given how vague the words left and liberal have become…but the lesson stands. Unity.
Agreed, we must all hang together…
Pretty sure you could answer my question without breaking any rules.
I mean, part of the answer isn’t against the rules: leave your cell phone at home.
It’s fine for you to suggest Americans should take up arms against their government.
That said, do you really think the individual American should do that?
Against the government - no of course not. Against the handful of people driving it into the ground - absolutely.
… and what’s ‘fine’ is at the mods’ discretion. I’ve been temp banned several times for having basically this conversation. Thing is, the options on the table right now are sit quietly and let the Nazis continue to take over the US government (shit tons of violence on a massive scale), or in the absence of any form of checks and balances to include effective peaceful protests or voting: cut the snake’s head off (still violence, but the least violent option we have). …but pulling that trolley lever to take the less violent path is still ‘advocating for violence’ here.
We’ll find out soon if this comment crossed the line.
We need more Luigis, that’s for sure.
*expanded previous comment - original version was posted from mobile which is significantly more tedious to rant on.
And yes, more Luigis please!!
Their constitution has protections on their rights for just such a situation, so they should be quite aware of their rights and what they’re capable of as a people.
Are you suggesting individuals should take up arms against their government?
How exactly do you expect that to look? Did you see what happened Jan 6?
Yeah, they got their leader elected… and got pardoned and are walking free, smug as shit.
If another jan 6 happens the capitol police should join in.
And the DC metro.
I doubt they would, but they should.