JPMorganChase CEO Jamie Dimon said during a Wednesday town hall he didn’t care how many employees signed a petition to bring back hybrid work. The company in mid-January announced a 100% return-to-office mandate, which angered many employees, who argue the move “disproportionately” pushed out women, caregivers, senior employees, and employees with disabilities.

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    I’ve had it with this stuff,” Dimon said during the town hall, according to Barron’s. “I’ve been working seven days a goddamn week since COVID, and I come in, and—where is everybody else?

    Let me make sure I understand this. You’re the chief executive of the world’s largest bank. You have vast resources and an army of other executives at your disposal. What exactly is so urgent that you have to work 7 days a week and why is that anyone else’s problem?

    Wall Street treats Jamie Dimon like he’s some sort of guru but it sounds to me like he’s an fucking idiot whiney baby who doesn’t manage his time wisely or recognize that he got to where he is on the backs of his employees.

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      Jamie Dimon is a moronic, completely useless excuse for a human. Maybe he works seven days a week because his overwhelming incompetence means it takes him that long to complete what a competent individual would do in one or two days?

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        Or maybe his partner and family don’t want him around (or vice versa) and banish him to the office.

        Either way, he is a very toxic person to be around.

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      Yeah, a lot of this RTO business is some misguided perception that the wealthy work the hardest, and are thusly disproportionately compensated. They don’t realize how hard everyone around them needs to work to keep things moving and give them their lifestyle.

      The workplace can feel like a prison for most workers trying to do their job, even if it’s what they like to do. For these CEOs and people at the top, it’s a space they built for themselves, of course they want to go to the office.

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      Even if he works twice as much as one of his employees, which I do not concede, he is being paid 500 or 1,000 times as much. For that much money, I would expect nothing less than 24/7.

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      Genuinely, like, if this is true and not posturing, hire help. Delegate. Something! Don’t take out your frustration about your workload on me.

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      “I’ve been working seven days a goddamn week since COVID, and I come in, and—where is everybody else?

      That’s a lie just like Elon Musk used to regularly tell. Then in the next interview Elon would talk about how he never missed any of his kid’s soccer games.

      Dimon has 3 daughters. He hasn’t been working 7 days a week. He probably did it once and takes a few phone calls on the weekend and considers that “working 7 days”.

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        I work with a “high powered CEO”. These parasites treat golfing, going to dinner, flying on private jets as “working”.

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          Why? I’ve had many choices that would’ve taken me down the “American Business person path of financial success!” There’s still options and temptations yearly to go down that would comfortably make me not worry about financial stress, but eventually someone always gets screwed over.

          Just asking as someone who pushed that all away and I don’t seem to regret it, what keeps you going everyday to show up and work for them? My friends I know have to if they’re going to maintain their lifestyle, kinda a perpetual cycle and they know nothing else so it’s way too scary of a jump.

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    I keep wondering how much more CEOs, billionaires and massive corporations (along with the current administration) can push the American people before there is a backlash?

    Right now Americans are like domestic violence victims and addicts

    “Jamie is a good person, it was my fault for not coming back to the office that made things worse.”

    “Just one more subscription, I need to watch my shows!, I promise I’ll quite after this season!”

    When and what is the tipping point where people just say “Fuck it, I’m done.” ?

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    CEOs and upper management people are acting like children these days. They just want to implement things they don’t understand the consequences of, yet when they get any kind of resistance they lose their shit. I’m just dumbfounded by this behavior because it makes me wonder what could happen if these people were replaced with people who actually care about the work itself and the quality of it. Y’know, the whole reason we have workplaces.

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      It’s because they’ve been too insulated from the violence that used to be incumbent in the wake of such asinine and harmful labor decisions. The decorum of the last 50 years has led these Boomers to think they are invulnerable.

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      Shareholder revolt, honestly. The rich shareholders benefit from these sorts of idiots, at least in the short term.

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    I genuinely fucking hate this shit. Like, for real. These fuckers want everyone in the office for the most bullshit reasons. They all have their reasons and they’re all bullshit. One I heard recently was “innovation happens in the office.” Innovation happens by ignoring the innovations that allow us to work remotely? By insisting we all waste massive amounts of time commuting? By wasting money renting huge office buildings in prime real estate locations?

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      Thing is, corporate ownership also owns a lot of commercial real estate. This push is entirely about saving that investment.

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        It’s for control. Same reason companies support administrating health insurance. It’s massively complicated and expensive but it enables control over the workforce.

        And… it’s the physical manifestation of the hierarchy supporting exec and investor ‘king’ egos over their proverbial kingdom.

        Most execs are also extroverts and run their businesses through personal relationships and experiences. And of course, the company pays for their commutes, housing, meals, and all the other reasons you and others have posted about. It’s advantageous, for them.

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        For companies like this, that’s true, but I see this push from tons of companies who don’t have a stake in that and just rent their office. Maybe it’s about saving the value on long term leases for them?

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          Even if the company itself doesn’t own any, the investors or lenders will. Thus they will have considerable pressure coming from higher up to force people back to the office, or lose that source of money.

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          Another couple of reasons:

          A) It gets people to quit, so the company doesn’t have to fire them

          B) It selects for those who are loyal, allowing them to filter out those that are unwilling to be pushed around

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            You’re missing the “management’s only purpose is to pressure people to work, if people do that at home without management…”

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    Hey Jaime, you wouldn’t have to have a giant portfolio full of office buildings by chance, would you?

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    Time for them all to get new jobs with a competitor. Be sure to get remote work guaranteed in writing.

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    Democracy! (but not in the workplace where you spend most of your awake time)

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    This is one case where I feel no sorrow. People who pursue their BBA/MBA are the worst and try to network themselves up to heaven. They chose this path knowing just how fickle it could be.

    Other RTO, yeah, screw the person at top.

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    You know, there’s a lot going on in the world, and for me, it’s hard giving a damn about people who’ve decided JPMorganChase is the career they want.

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      People have to eat. I work for an evil corporation, so I try not to be too good at my job, but just good enough to keep collecting a check

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        You could find ethical ways to make money. It’s not hard or impossible. The vast majority of everyone else on the planet seems to have found a way.

        Grow a conscious or some balls. Preferably both.

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          Truly spoken like you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about at all.

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            About getting a fucking job? Lol. Everyone who works at an immoral company is 100% complicit with every action their company takes. If you don’t like it, leave. If there’s no other jobs you have to move. Welcome to how the world works.

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              Moving is so easy and inexpensive yep

              You’re either a bad troll or a rich kid who has no idea what being poor is like

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                Lie more.

                I’ve been homeless and grew up with a can of beans feeding 3. You have to move to find the work. Expecting everything to fall in your lap with no effort is lazy and entitled. You’re the type of person that stays poor.

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          I think one can easily argue capitalism is unethical, as it is based on extraction and exploitation, and has a non-democratic power structure. So that eliminates most jobs in the West as being ethical.

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            Ahkshully… Everything is bad so checkmate

            What a big brain take. Everyone bad. Thanks for the Reddit level insight.

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    I think this is only partly about the need to keep the value of commercial real estate inflated.

    I think there’s a more fundamental psychological motivation.

    The illusion that the C-suite actually contributes value sufficient to arguably justify their obscene salaries depends in large part on them sitting in offices at the top of a building full of workers.

    If the building is not full of workers, that threatens the illusion.

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      He needs to feel like a big man with a big pp. The way you do that is when someone is setting up an appointment for you and says “Is 3 o’clock okay?” You say, “No, I have a meeting.” That shows them that you are a big man with big important business meetings to attend with your fancy briefcase. You can’t take your fancy briefcase to your big important business meeting on zoom. Well, you can, but it loses the luster. And thus we have why so many CEO’s want RTO.

      Conversely, the middle management wants it because they don’t want to be exposed as useless.

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      Also, people with power often like to harm people that are less fortunate because they believe they deserve it: “If they were good people, they wouldn’t need to work for a living, because they’d be rich. Since they’re not rich, they must be bad people.”

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        I was legitimately shocked at the cartoonishly villainous shit I heard in my brief time at an investment firm. I swear to God this is a verbatim quote from a middle-aged, white, millionaire, Mormon investment adviser:

        “There’s no excuse for any American not to be a millionaire, if they’d just stop buying their cigarettes and their dope for a few weeks.”

        Hand to God. It’s so absurd that it sounds like a, “That man’s name was Albert Einstein. And then they all clapped.”-type story, but that place was fucking wild.

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          “There’s no excuse for any American not to be a millionaire, if they’d just stop buying their cigarettes and their dope for a few weeks.”

          To be fair, the first half of that is true. What’s wrong is the victim-blaming nonsense, failing to correctly attribute the reason to wages’ failure to keep up with worker productivity.