• spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    23 hours ago

    That’s a lot of words to say that you don’t care about other people or what happens to them. I’m sure trans people at home or those suffering under the neo-colonial regime of the US are proud of you.

    you have to develop a solid ideological viewpoint and act on it if you actually want your voice to be represented.

    Yeah, I guess that’s where we differ. I use my ideological viewpoint to protect people rather than let immense harm come to them in the vain attempt to make a point to political organizations. But it amazes me the lengths people go to justify increasing the amount of suffering they are allowing to occur based on “principles”.

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      22 hours ago

      those suffering under the neo-colonial regime of the US are proud of you.

      I wouldn’t expect the victims of genocide to be proud of people for voting for either genocidal candidate. It’s fairly offensive that someone with your callousness and privilege would even speak for them.

      it amazes me the lengths people go to justify increasing the amount of suffering they are allowing to occur based on “principles”.

      Yes, you are enabling endless violence by your support for these disgusting politicians and their racist, patriarchial empire. Your principles are bad actually.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

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        16 hours ago

        I wouldn’t expect the victims of genocide to be proud of people for voting for either genocidal candidate. It’s fairly offensive that someone with your callousness and privilege would even speak for them.

        It’s not callous to acknowledge that your choice will and already has lead to greater suffering, suffering that I have to watch my family and friends go through. You call me callous but didn’t even try to stop, and you’re hiding behind systemic problems to not have to acknowledge that.

        So with all due respect, kindly go fuck yourself.

        Yes, you are enabling endless violence by your support for these disgusting politicians and their racist, patriarchial empire. Your principles are bad actually.

        And you’re accelerating that through your principles, so they’re still worse than mine.

        Like it or not, sitting out is not helpful to your cause. But keep telling yourself what you have to do you can sleep at night.

        Goodbye, and I will not read any additional replies.

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        19 hours ago

        They wouldn’t be enabling shit because the idea that simply not turning out for the election would end the violence is completely and utterly delusional.

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      21 hours ago

      And if I was a US citizen and I did not vote, or voted for Trump, what would change? I will tell you what, nothing. You can vote for whomever you want, and still only one candidate will win, and your vote will likely not matter even if you live in a swing state but you probably don’t, so it doesn’t matter at all. You make it sound like by abstaining you elect Trump, but if your vote is not decisive, it does not have a negative impact on others. So indulging my ego would do no harm. But it would delegitimise the system I am opposed to.

      You are complaining about the neo-colonial regime of the US. I am not certain how legitimising the party that supports it is going to change anything in that regard, but please, enlighten me.

      Every vote is a vote for the system, it does not matter whether you vote for Trump or not. If you love the right-wing democratic party and don’t want anti-imperialist, leftist and even centre-left views present in your political system, please, do not do anything and just vote for whatever mediocre politician the party appoints while disregarding the popular will. But stop complaining about people that actually want their views represented.

      Democracy does not just arise naturally, it has to be maintained. You have to stand your ground, demand what is rightfully yours. If you do not even try to do that, and just defer to the political system, you do not understand what it takes to have a democracy.

      Why would anyone vote for a party that they are opposed to ideologically?

      Edit: I do understand why, of course, I just diapprove.