Maybe check out PieFed as well. In contrast to Lemmy, it offers a Wiki. Though, I’m pretty sure it isn’t federated yet. And it needs some more attention before becoming super useful. Selfhosting a wiki would be a good approach, too. We even have one federated Wiki: Ibis (by one of the Lemmy devs). But that’s still in its infancy.
I’m a huge fan of PieFed. PieFed itself is definitely federated btw - in fact I’m talking to you from it right now - although I don’t know about a wiki for it being federated (I would suspect not, bc Lemmy wouldn’t have a way to “receive” it even if it were sent).
And yes, it’s very much not ready for the common masses yet, but damn is it SUPER impressive with what it is able to do even right now - Categories of Communities, hashtags, an initial sign-up wizard so that someone doesn’t have to start on All vs. have an empty Subscribed feed, etc. For those willing to endure the growing pains of working on a beta, it’s already superior to Lemmy imho (especially with an alt Lemmy account to fall back on when PieFed doesn’t work properly), though definitely there are far too many frustrating aspects for a non-technical user coming randomly from e.g. Reddit, that is true. (Hopefully not for too much longer though!:-)
Yes, I share your opinion. I prefer PieFed. It has some quirks you’re bound to notice once you use it. A few missing things here and there, like the ability to upload pictures in comments. And people keep complaining about the lack of an app (while I think the prgressive web app is perfectly fine). But we get lots of other features in turn that are missing on Lemmy. Like the topics you mentioned. We have initial support for Wikis and lots of other things. And I like the technical design. Seems the underlying framework is far less complex than what Lemmy is based on. Which makes PieFed relatively robust, easier on the resources(?) or at least easier to fix once something goes wrong. And the small community is very impressive in improving all sorts of minor and major aspects of the platform. It’s a bit difficult to compare both projects since they also operate on a different scale. We don’t know if Piefed would be able to handle the several thousands of users of an active Lemmy instance. We’d need to grow to that size to find out. All I can say is, it’s impressive and works well for what it is right now.
It being Python rather than Rust should help it grow features more quickly, though as you alluded might not scale as well - we’ll see, though in the meantime it sends ~25-fold less data per request for the front page iirc, so network wise (if not quite server side) it seems off to a great start!
When the Thunder fork is ready that’s going to be a huge milestone. I still think that the web UI is necessary to draw people in, without having to say “download this app, make an account, and then you can view it”. But they both, and also the backend as well, will improve over time.
Ah, I always forget about that. I pinned it to my phones homescreen with the Progressive web app and that pretty much does everything I need. So I really forget we need a dedicated app. The API is in the works, btw.
I’m not sure, I’ve been using it for quite some time now. I usually notice the differences once I visit a Lemmy instance and Lemmy lacks some small feature that I’m accustomed to. But I guess this goes both ways. Main thing for me is, I can take part in the development process of PieFed.
Maybe check out PieFed as well. In contrast to Lemmy, it offers a Wiki. Though, I’m pretty sure it isn’t federated yet. And it needs some more attention before becoming super useful. Selfhosting a wiki would be a good approach, too. We even have one federated Wiki: Ibis (by one of the Lemmy devs). But that’s still in its infancy.
I’m a huge fan of PieFed. PieFed itself is definitely federated btw - in fact I’m talking to you from it right now - although I don’t know about a wiki for it being federated (I would suspect not, bc Lemmy wouldn’t have a way to “receive” it even if it were sent).
And yes, it’s very much not ready for the common masses yet, but damn is it SUPER impressive with what it is able to do even right now - Categories of Communities, hashtags, an initial sign-up wizard so that someone doesn’t have to start on All vs. have an empty Subscribed feed, etc. For those willing to endure the growing pains of working on a beta, it’s already superior to Lemmy imho (especially with an alt Lemmy account to fall back on when PieFed doesn’t work properly), though definitely there are far too many frustrating aspects for a non-technical user coming randomly from e.g. Reddit, that is true. (Hopefully not for too much longer though!:-)
Yes, I share your opinion. I prefer PieFed. It has some quirks you’re bound to notice once you use it. A few missing things here and there, like the ability to upload pictures in comments. And people keep complaining about the lack of an app (while I think the prgressive web app is perfectly fine). But we get lots of other features in turn that are missing on Lemmy. Like the topics you mentioned. We have initial support for Wikis and lots of other things. And I like the technical design. Seems the underlying framework is far less complex than what Lemmy is based on. Which makes PieFed relatively robust, easier on the resources(?) or at least easier to fix once something goes wrong. And the small community is very impressive in improving all sorts of minor and major aspects of the platform. It’s a bit difficult to compare both projects since they also operate on a different scale. We don’t know if Piefed would be able to handle the several thousands of users of an active Lemmy instance. We’d need to grow to that size to find out. All I can say is, it’s impressive and works well for what it is right now.
Pre-xactly!:-)
It being Python rather than Rust should help it grow features more quickly, though as you alluded might not scale as well - we’ll see, though in the meantime it sends ~25-fold less data per request for the front page iirc, so network wise (if not quite server side) it seems off to a great start!
When the Thunder fork is ready that’s going to be a huge milestone. I still think that the web UI is necessary to draw people in, without having to say “download this app, make an account, and then you can view it”. But they both, and also the backend as well, will improve over time.
Piefed doesn’t have app support yet. That’s a deal breaker for a lot of users
Ah, I always forget about that. I pinned it to my phones homescreen with the Progressive web app and that pretty much does everything I need. So I really forget we need a dedicated app. The API is in the works, btw.
I know, hopefully it will come out soon 🤞
YSK They’re porting thunder to it.
https://codeberg.org/freamon/app_for_piefed
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37327351/16557557
Oh i didn’t see it, sorry x)
I know, but no timeframe yet, right?
I’m not sure. I only learned about it through https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/13 Not much information, though.
I wonder if it would be possible to either implement piefed support into thunder or voyager, or if they would need a completely new app.
They are forking Thunder.
!piefed_2025@piefed.social for more details
How does piefed differ from Lemmy?
There is an overview page talking about the differences here: https://join.piefed.social/features/
I’m not sure, I’ve been using it for quite some time now. I usually notice the differences once I visit a Lemmy instance and Lemmy lacks some small feature that I’m accustomed to. But I guess this goes both ways. Main thing for me is, I can take part in the development process of PieFed.