I am actively looking to join one as soon as there is momentum, because I am certainly not the right candidate for leading a political movement, nor do I think I’m a great fit to generate that early momentum.
But no matter what, I don’t think the group sentiment should be “give me a perfect candidate, or I’m helping the Nazis” That seems like a foundational issue that needs to be corrected, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. And relatively speaking, the “good” choice was simply not being Nazis.
Adapt to the situation, and as part of the progress maybe we can adopt a better voting system that doesn’t force you to make one of 2 choices for high level government positions. But don’t delude yourself into thinking there was any other option. Our choices were genocide, or more genocide, and voters that didn’t want the genocide candidate ironically helped the more genocide candidate. They should regret that.
I honestly don’t think division is the intention of most folks like myself, I think it’s a venting of frustration and an honest plea for people to reflect on the past so that history doesn’t repeat itself immediately.
Maybe some people want an apology, but that sounds silly. Personally I just want to see reflection and a commitment to avoiding the same issue going forward. Cause I’m gonna be blunt, it’s impossible to please everyone in a 2 party system, and I guarantee you the Democrats are going to disappoint you next time, but can we agree that they are better than the alternative? And can we embrace the reality of the 2 party system while we strive to improve it?
You want us to reflect on how voting for a secret Nazi is… Better than voting for a flamboyant Nazi? How about you reflect on what you can do to either get Democrats to stop forwarding Nazi candidates with Nazi policies OR elect candidates who aren’t Nazis?
And we have reached the root of the issue I was describing. Yes, democrats aren’t perfect, rather it’s accurate to say they are awful. But you seem to actively be dodging the point that they are better than the alternative whether you like them or not.
As for reflecting on what we can do to stop them, I would say that we could start by not dissuading voters, and instead encourage them to vote every time, especially in primaries, so that a more preferable candidate can be had. In this election, that wouldn’t have done jack shit, but maybe it could have replaced Biden in the previous election. And maybe if you want to tackle the core problems with the DNC, we will have to elect candidates campaigning on doing so within lower levels of government, which will require us to encourage voters, not dissuade them.
Getting mad because people point out that your impotent rage isnt a solution, and instead gets in the way of a solution, also isn’t a solution. What ideas do you have?
Or you could stop and build a string coalition with an action plan.
I am actively looking to join one as soon as there is momentum, because I am certainly not the right candidate for leading a political movement, nor do I think I’m a great fit to generate that early momentum.
But no matter what, I don’t think the group sentiment should be “give me a perfect candidate, or I’m helping the Nazis” That seems like a foundational issue that needs to be corrected, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. And relatively speaking, the “good” choice was simply not being Nazis.
Adapt to the situation, and as part of the progress maybe we can adopt a better voting system that doesn’t force you to make one of 2 choices for high level government positions. But don’t delude yourself into thinking there was any other option. Our choices were genocide, or more genocide, and voters that didn’t want the genocide candidate ironically helped the more genocide candidate. They should regret that.
Stop focusing on what was/could have been. Focus on what is/can be. A house divided refers to self before all.
I honestly don’t think division is the intention of most folks like myself, I think it’s a venting of frustration and an honest plea for people to reflect on the past so that history doesn’t repeat itself immediately.
Maybe some people want an apology, but that sounds silly. Personally I just want to see reflection and a commitment to avoiding the same issue going forward. Cause I’m gonna be blunt, it’s impossible to please everyone in a 2 party system, and I guarantee you the Democrats are going to disappoint you next time, but can we agree that they are better than the alternative? And can we embrace the reality of the 2 party system while we strive to improve it?
You want us to reflect on how voting for a secret Nazi is… Better than voting for a flamboyant Nazi? How about you reflect on what you can do to either get Democrats to stop forwarding Nazi candidates with Nazi policies OR elect candidates who aren’t Nazis?
And we have reached the root of the issue I was describing. Yes, democrats aren’t perfect, rather it’s accurate to say they are awful. But you seem to actively be dodging the point that they are better than the alternative whether you like them or not.
As for reflecting on what we can do to stop them, I would say that we could start by not dissuading voters, and instead encourage them to vote every time, especially in primaries, so that a more preferable candidate can be had. In this election, that wouldn’t have done jack shit, but maybe it could have replaced Biden in the previous election. And maybe if you want to tackle the core problems with the DNC, we will have to elect candidates campaigning on doing so within lower levels of government, which will require us to encourage voters, not dissuade them.
Getting mad because people point out that your impotent rage isnt a solution, and instead gets in the way of a solution, also isn’t a solution. What ideas do you have?