• Pennomi@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    You can be vocal about it and still vote for the lesser evil in order to reduce harm and save lives.

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      16 hours ago

      You can be vocal about it and still vote for the lesser evil in order to reduce harm and save lives.

      This is what almost every legitimate progressive voice I knew did.

      It is what I did.

      It is what every leftist I know did.

      When will libs understand leftists are serious in their coalition building and stop existentially questioning the trustworthiness of our intentions?

      Disagree with me, lets talk policy, let us hash out together the 1000 ways things were able to get this bad… but please fucking STOP categorically calling into question our intentions or ability to make the necessary play none of us are excited about. This is baby stuff, leftist discourse discusses this stuff constantly, terminally online leftists by and large get it trust me.

      we voted for Harris

      we voted for Biden

      we voted for Clinton

      The people who didn’t turn out to vote weren’t highly informed leftists and more importantly weren’t the kind of people who give a shit about hearing what terminally upset leftists had to say. If you think Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland, Krystal Ball and Kyle Kulinsky, The Rational National, Benjamin Dixon etc… had an impact on unengaged low information voters you are making an absurd leap of thinking… and they advocated for voting for Harris anyways, go back, check the receipts.

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        15 hours ago

        Most importantly, the ones who didn’t turn out to vote were in states that don’t matter anyway. Harris actually got more votes than Biden in most key swing states.

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      17 hours ago

      This is a thread about what Trump is currently doing and the most upvoted comment is blaming voters. I don’t know what alienating people after the election serves. It’s literally going to make sure they repeat the same behavior, doubly so if the dems feel confident enough to run on apathy a second time.

      My point is that currently, most here seem to be vocal about the wrong thing. They voted stupidly but we’re goaded into it by a party that clearly does not represent its constituantes anymore. We should be asking the party to change but we are doing the opposite.

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        15 hours ago

        Exactly. The truth is that the current DNC is utterly incapable of actually winning a presidential election, and they have been incapable of it for more than a decade. 2020 was an anomaly; they won only due to covid. Fixating on Gaza will only ensure that the fundamental mistakes aren’t corrected and that Republicans win again in 2028.