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Crazy how polticized science is.
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Well now how will I explain that a pregnant dominant species member is not a Martian
Since when does the CDC have the authority to do this in the first place? If the CDC can’t effectively police actions during a global pandemic they sure as shit shouldn’t have to authority to control the terminology used in medical research.
Maybe research that used CDC funds?
Scientists are going to have to start living more modest lifestyles if they want to appreciate science more than wealth.
The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people.
The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people
Impressive that it is actually true, I thought it is an exaggeration. From Wikipedia:
On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler, the leader of the Nazi Party, came to power
On 6 May 1933, a group of students … the students proceeded to shout “Brenne Hirschfeld!” (“Burn Hirschfeld!”) while ransacking and vandalizing the Institute, tearing pictures from the walls, pouring inkwells onto carpets, and destroying exhibitions while the band played outside.
src: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_Nazi_Germany
Yeah, when they teach about book burnings they never mention that fact. It also serves as a reminder that trans people are not just a modern phenomenon. The Nazis’ reasons for targeting trans people then are the same as right-wingers today, they look for a small, marginalized group and seize on existing prejudice to sow division and divide and conquer. The Nazis claimed trans people were a Jewish plot to weaken and destroy the Ayran race, and you can still see echos of that in some right-wing rhetoric today.
Why the fuck trans consider themselves as the fucking center of the universe… You are just a person.
You came into a discussion about trans topics being censored and are angry that trans people are being discusses? Do you think this thread is the “fucking center of the universe”?
Oh shit we just found the dumbest fuck on Lemmy lol
Hey there. Just letting you know that in general trans people and their allies absolutely do not want to be the center of public attention like this. They didn’t ask for it.
You’re right, there’s no good reason everyone should be so completely focused on them as a group. But that wasn’t their choice. That was the choice Nazis made when the first books they burned were about gender and sexuality.
That was the choice Nazis made when they spent the last decade and the foreseeable future demonizing and discriminating against transgender people.
Not because they asked for it. Not because they deserve it. But because they are the easiest target. Small in numbers. Complex by nature. Difficult to understand for the uninformed and the disinformed. “Different.”
They don’t consider themselves the center of the universe. Bigots do. Bigots have decided that transgender issues should be the thing everyone cares about right now. If you want to blame anyone, blame them.
Well stated
How dare I inform people about objective historical facts that relate to modern day news stories 🙄
It’s objectively true that the German nazi party first went after gender studies they didn’t like. It wasn’t called transgender at the time, but that’s what we call it today.
I’m a straight white dude and it takes very little thinking to see that trans people are being targeted as “the other” again. So, not kindly, go fuck yourself.
A take so dumb, wrong and out of context that I don’t know how to respond to it. Wow
There’s this thing called empathy. Maybe you should look into it.
They then executed everyone with a brain. Drs, teachers, engineers, scientists, researchers, etc
“forbidden terms”
…must be that “free speech” I keep hearing about. This is obviously a first amendment issue, right?
Right?
to be fair you’ve been hearing about it from this troglodyte:
I don’t see the difference between the two pictures. Is the left one supposed to be black and white? And the right being in colour?
One on the right seems pretty black and white too.
I disagree with this, but I also disagree censoring research against feminist or LGBT groups, as it has been happening systematically.
What kind of research do you have in mind? The phrase “research against” strikes me as a bit odd: it suggests research done with a preconceived conclusion in mind, whereas good scientific research tries to investigate a question neutrally and only conclude based on the evidence.
Examples?
Look at all this cancel culture….
1984
More like 1930s Germany.
In case anyone is unfamiliar - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_für_Sexualwissenschaft#Nazi_era
But with new technology available, so the sci-fi distopia analogy makes sense.
So much money wasted modifying all these documents.
For them, it’s worth the cost for greater good.
For them, it’s worth the cost for greater
goodharm.They don’t care about the greater good. They care about causing as much harm as they can.
Uh causing as much harm as possible is their greater good
This is… This is bad! Wow.
I’m so fucking scared. They’ve inhibited our movement by fucking with passports, they’ve defined us as dishonest and dishonorable in the EO kick us out of the military, they’ve codified the notion that our gender identity constitutes sexual deviance and poses a threat to children, they’ve attacked proven life-saving care, with a focus on children and an impact on adults.
and now they’re trying to book-burn us out of existence.
this is systematic dehumanization, the track record of which is grim.
There’s just straight up not enough of us to do this on our own.
If people don’t start standing up for us, we’re fucked.
Wait, how did they mess with passports?
They’re refusing to issue passports to people who have had their gender marker legally changed, and some bigoted employees have been illegally confiscating documents (like birth certificates and social security cards) from those who try anyways.
So if your drivers license gender marker doesn’t match your birth certificate, they’ll refuse to issue the passport, and there’s a non-zero chance that the person behind the desk will steal both when you try to apply. So now you don’t have a passport and you need to go through the arduous process of getting all new ID paperwork just to prove who you are.
They are stealing the documents of trans people who go to get new documents including passports, leaving them without identifying paperwork (and identified by the authorities by the paperwork they lost) in a time where that is very convenient for the people in power, and threatening them with arrest if they ask for them back. In addition to what has been said already
From my sister about my 17y.o. trans niece: “Unfortunately, [niece] had a children’s passport (expired now), so she’s in the group who would not be able to get a passport anymore because her birth certificate and social security don’t currently match each other and don’t match her passport records.”
There was a story about how they wouldn’t renew some transgender persons passport the other day.
They confiscated it, wouldn’t give it back and were threatening to arrest her. There are also reports of trans people that were renewing their passports by mail and told they wouldn’t be getting them back.
Ugh.
You just know if it was someone sadly following the new requirements, it would have been a very apologetic taking of it and that would be the end, even if traumatic.
When they threaten to arrest them, they’re in on it.
non-binary people had been getting “X“ instead of M or F on their passport. The Trump administration will no longer allow those passports to be issued
Seems to be more than that, one person was outright refused any passport, even male, and were threatened with arrest if they asked any more questions. All paperwork (birth certificate etc) was kept by the office in LA.
The entire passport office is shut down right now .
They are not issuing new passports.
Unless you mean because it’s 3 am on a Sunday, this is blatent misinformation.
Maybe it’s just the three trans people I know that are trying to leave the country right now, my brother’s family, and a bunch of family friends that come from a family of pilots and flight attendants.
I’m sure they are the only people having trouble in the whole country. Must be an isolated incident. … …
They are all located out west and in the Midwest, so maybe it’s just the Chicago office and the website. I don’t know if anybody has tried doing it through mail correspondence yet but that takes a little bit more time anyway.
That’s completely different than, “The entire passport office is shut right now.”. You were either being unnecessarily hyperbolic, or intentionally spreading misinformation. Neither helps in situations like this.
There have been multiple people in local groups that have reported this happening to them this week. Going to get documentation updated, sent home without anything - not even documentation with natal sex. Local queer org put out an advisory - reached out to all shrinks that work with queer people.
For anyone trans or NB, starting with applications received from 1/16. Others are not impacted yet AFAIK.
Wait, for real? For everyone?
For anyone with an x or that is trans. Renewals for them is awaiting on a policy update.
All people need is a focus for resistance, a group or a leader to join. Most people are disgusted by this, and despite the election result I still believe most people would rather see trans people happy than suffering. And as the visibility of trans people increases, more and more cis people have been discovering that they know and care about trans people in their own lives. That’s why the hateful fringe feels it’s so urgent to shut trans rights down. They know they have to push people back into fear and silence before transphobia becomes uncommon. And they know they have to silence people talking about these matters to make organized resistance possible. But the quiet is largely people not knowing how to connect and resist, not a lack of desire to resist. It’s time for organized resistance and the first movement that gets going will find many supporters.
We also need some organization around getting LGBTQ+ refugees out of the USA and into other countries. The restrictions on passports are very ominous.
I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine where your head is at right now.
An attack on science is an attack on us all. They are trying to erase science they dont agree with. This is Christian fascism - welcome to giliad.
Anyone in the US please organise - join an anti religious influence group, protest, disobey. You must fight back.
thats not about religion at its roots.
join an anti-capitalist organization if you wanna go by history. just delusions of revolution otherwise.
Science doesn’t need politics, politics needs science.
science needs politics to not be repressed, politics needs science for being effective and fair.
Science doesn’t need politics to tell what is what, it’s science who should be telling politics what is what. Ofcourse politics can block science, e.g. this article.
No it surely doesn’t. Politics can exist with no new science.
It can, but it shouldn’t.
Also, for those leaking info, please do better than the OOP of the screen shot contained in this post. Not saying this is particularly sensitive and I don’t even know if their intent was to remain anonymous. But just a reminder to think about the little things like the “You forwarded this message at 11:17” because if anyone cares, they could easily find out who forwarded that email at that time. I would guess that most government entities could pretty easily come up with justification to fire anyone based on the public dissemination of intergovernmental emails, regardless of whether the contents were specifically noted as sensitive.
I only felt compelled to comment this because this is the second post I have seen in the last day or so with an identifying feature like that. There are a lot of government employees who probably can’t stomach working under this administration, and I get it. But there is an argument to make that those of you who oppose the administrations stances can do more good from within, or at least do your best to minimize the harm that would be caused by the bootlicking henchmen you will be replaced with.
Oh, it’s not the onion.
What’s the opposite of eating the onion? That happened to me just now too
Drinking the swamp
Crying.
Hopeful thinking
Literally speedrunning the Nazi handbook.
