I don’t know if I’m opening a can of worms here, and I’m still trying to backtrack a lot of history where I was tuning everything out. I keep seeing random swipes at Signal (or the representatives (?)), and I was wondering whether they are founded or just lies.Is it another situation like Lemmy where we just “take the technology and move on”? Thanks!

  • AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Accurate. And if you are being targeted by 5 eyes, your phone is probably fucked, one app vs another probably won’t make a difference

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      45 minutes ago

      If you ARE targeted by 5 eyes, you’d probably want to not be using your phone for communications, but Signal sorta requires you to, even if there’s a desktop client.

      However, I don’t presume to know what would be the best option. SimpleX maybe, as the servers don’t keep messages? Otherwise, I use Matrix because it’s a lot more common and very easy to set up your own homeserver. However, again, if I had to hide something from a 5 eyes threat actor, they’d just find some vulnerability in my server config or, hell, maybe they can somehow sneakily get root access through the VPS provider itself, as I’m not hosting on my own hardware.

      Honestly, meeting in person might be the most private solution if you’ve got that kind of a threat model.

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        Signal doesn’t keep messages on their servers either. The only data they have on you is your phone number and the unix time you made your account in.