• AppleTea@lemmy.zip
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    21 hours ago

    Biden’s polling low, the voters want things do be different… huh, better campaign on doing nothing different! What? They’re saying we’re doing a genocide? Well, better point out that Trump is gonna do a worse genocide!

    That’ll be a great message, exactly the sort of thing that makes people excited to vote…

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      19 hours ago

      “Democrats didn’t entertain me enough so I didn’t vote.”

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        Yes. The party needs to be enticing. They lost an election. Shaming voters for not embracing lesser evilism is another mistake the party is making and you’re reproducing here.

        At least twice now the party has believed themselves to be assured of victory because Trump is on the ballot. Now they may never have a chance to run again.

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      19 hours ago

      Yeah, because people should vote on excitement and engagement, not truth … totally doesn’t devolve a democratic process into one of reactionary populisms fueled by false promises. If people want to get excited, they should go to a theme park. If they have a shred of civil responsibility, they vote, specially when things were as bad as they were.

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        because people should vote on excitement and engagement, not truth

        What part of the genocide wasn’t true at the time of the elections?

        reactionary populisms fueled by false promises

        Like codifying Roe V Wade? Like closing Guantanamo?

        If they have a shred of civil responsibility

        Civil responsibility is voting for the party that pretends to care about Gazans while carrying out a genocide and funding Israel.

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        because people should vote on excitement and engagement, not truth

        What part of the genocide wasn’t true at the time of the elections?

        reactionary populisms fueled by false promises

        Like codifying Roe V Wade? Like closing Guantanamo?

        If they have a shred of civil responsibility

        Civil responsibility is voting for the party that pretends to care about Gazans while carrying out a genocide and funding Israel.

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        19 hours ago

        If people want to get excited, they should go to a theme park.

        Welcome to America!

        If they have a shred of civil responsibility

        lmao

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          That’s the thing, when most of society laughs at that, the chances of having any sort of democratic process work drop to nothing.

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            19 hours ago

            Americans have the most individualist “fuck you I got mine” ladder-pulling-upist culture in the entire world. Maybe someday we’ll have a cultural revolution and come out the other side less anti-social, but in the meantime if you want anything done in this country you’ve got to convince people that there’s something in it for them.

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            its as simple as this, if you don’t respect democracy, you don’t deserve democracy.

            Go vote, or shut the fuck up and accept your fate, those are your two options. Don’t come crying to me when you realized you voted for a fucking loser. Make a better choice next time.

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      18 hours ago

      i mean, it’s also factually true. I still maintain that the dems ran a fairly good campaign. The problem was voter turnout, as it always is, except for 2020, when voting was easier.

      Because democrats have an aversion to actually doing things for some reason (primarily age related)