• Veltoss@lemmy.world
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    Gotta love how they told people to go south then bombed them there, as well as hospitals. And they can just say every target, no matter how many civilians die, was a “Hamas target” and it’s “Hamas’ responsibility to protect civilians” while they indiscriminately bomb these civilians.

    Crazy that more people aren’t speaking up against this.

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      They told people to evacuate and then bombed the evacuation routes.

      Israeli spokespersons keep saying they’re fighting Nazis, but I only see Nazis on their side of this.

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      I swear to God, I can’t name another country that takes such little criticism ever in the MSM other than Israel.

      A fucking hospital ffs.

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      For many it’s the sunk cost fallacy.

      They’ve rhetorically, unreservedly supported Israel for half a century, and they will not be reexamining those intransigent beliefs today, thank you very much.

      "The Doctor: How much blood will spill until everybody does what they’re always going to have to do from the very beginning – sit down and talk! Listen to me, listen. I just – I just want you to think. Do you know what thinking is? It’s just a fancy word for changing your mind.

      Bonnie: I will not change my mind.

      The Doctor: Then you will die stupid."

      -Steven Moffat, excerpt from Doctor Who

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        They should’ve peacefully marched and protested!

        …. Like they did in 2018 and got brutally shot down by the dozens of thousands, with thousands of dead and more than 10 times that maimed for life with their knees destroyed, intentionally, by IDF soldiers as they laughed? When they marched peacefully towards the walls and barriers, making their concerns heard in protests and absolutely nothing got better and no one cared?

        In any case, we all know everything we’ve ever achieved was done through peaceful protest. Like the civil rights movement! MLK made some speeches and the white bourgeoisie felt bad and changed all the laws.

        Don’t look into how MLK was murdered and there was mass protest and revolt with plenty of violence before any changes ever happened…

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        Don’t you see! You can challenge your oppressors with peace and forgiveness!

        Dorky ass motherfuckers who wouldn’t last a single day under the Israeli foot.

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        This is a bullshit excuse for violence against innocent bystanders. You can (and Israel supporters DO) apply this exact same argument to Israel: “And what exactly SHOULD they do about HAMAS, Mr. Smarty-pants, just let terrorists run pel mel, unpunished?”

        I don’t have an affirmative answer; if I did I’d be happy to collect my Nobel peace prize. What I do have is the understanding that “but you just don’t understand, it’s justified when WE do it” is a giant crock of shit, and it’s the lie that every oppressor through the ages (including Israel) has told themselves.

        Edit: Other countries need to step up their game. It’s plain to see what’s happening in Palestine, even with the internet and electricity blackouts imposed there, so one can only imagine how much worse it really is. The US and others need to step up and denounce this shit, tell Israel to go to the bargaining table for real or they’re off the teat for good.

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              No, seriously. If you don’t have an answer then you have to defer to the people struggling on the ground. You don’t get to moralize to them when they’re fighting for their lives against genocide.

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      i’ve given up caring about it edit: i should’ve clarified myself. i do wish the best for people that are affected by this “war” (idk what to call it) but i’ve simply given up caring about who wins or what happens on any war or attack. in the end it’s people dying and that makes me sad so i simply try not to care about anything like this

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        The 2.5 million in Gaza sadly don’t have this privilege and can’t stop caring.

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            The only threat the people in Israel are under right now is their own state waging war.

            Most Israelis are living their normal lives still. Parties and clubs still happened over the weekend without issue. It’s been 9 days of 2.5 million Gaza-ians not having a drop of water, an ounce of food, or a minute of electricity imported.

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            9 million in Israel under constant rocket fire.

            Sorry - please remind me… what are they doing in Palestine again?

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    Some nerd reported the post suggesting that maybe it was a Palestinian air strike. LMAO

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      Israel is claiming that some rockets launched by Hamas towards Israel went off course and hit the hospital.

      I remember Russia staging a “Ukrainian missle attack”, but they were so bad at it that the damage was on the side of buildings facing away from Ukraine. Should be pretty easy to check that here too…

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        The rockets Hamas fires can barely punch a hole in a wall, and this explosion basically leveled the whole hospital. It’s just a ridiculous claim.

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          The scale of boom the IDF is dropping is an order of magnitude larger than Hamas missiles.

          It’s insane to think that one (or even more than one) missile could destroy a hospital.

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            Did you see the OH bombing aftermath? Low explosives can still pack a hefty punch, and the hospital is by no means “destroyed”.

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        Hamas has never shown the capacity to level a full building. This war would be much shorter if they could.

        Every successful rocket strike of theirs is a simple smoking hole.

        The zionist state, on the other hand, has bombed this exact hospital before, has extensively bragged about their bombing capability, and cannot stop lying.

        This is less complicated than you’re making it out to be.

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                  I don’t doubt that. This is not me defending Israel. This is me trying to figure out what’s actually happening.

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                  My stance on the situation briefly: State of Israel shouldn’t have been put there in the first place. Zionists are religious extremists and I’m against them. Palestinians on the other hand had their land forcibly taken from them which I don’t agree with, and they have every right to be pissed about it. Hamas on the other hand is religious extremst group aswell and they’re indiscriminately murdering innocent civilians (as are the jewish extremists aswell) so I’m against them too. The only people I’m in favour here of are the millions of innocent civilians on the both sides who’d just want to be treated fairly and live peacefully.

                  So I’m biased yeah, but it’s a bit more nuanced than that.

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            Ah yes because a 1,000kg bomb that took over a thousand lives in one go “might not” level an entire building. And despite reddit-logo actually celebrating, it could have been an accident.

            PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS

              • Yeah the “field of bodies” video is pretty easy to find even if you’re not looking for it. I don’t blame you for not wanting to see the shit, It’s terrible. But don’t come with some fake claim that only cars can be found. “Leveled” is a word used to mean “made rubble” sometimes and “made to be as useless and dangerous as rubble” others. This is probably the latter time, but I haven’t seen videos showing the remains of the building honestly. I don’t search for this shit tho

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                Lmao. The “I didn’t see it so it didn’t happen” defence. Take a time out and you can have a juice box 👶🧃

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        Adding to the dogpile here: IDF and Israel Twitter profiles posted videos that “proved” this, then people quoted old tweets showing that video was from the last year

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    Hamas not killing more than 50 people with rockets in the last 20 years but had this hospital flattening rocket all along which they only decided to use tonight, it then blew up a hospital that just happened to be the one the Israelis told to evacuate before they bombed it. Yeah?

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    Genocide Joe saying it wasn’t the zionist entity, but ‘someone else’.probably corn pop, he’s a bad dude, Jack biden-point

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    I don’t understand a lot about this conflict but surely there can be no justification for this. Those poor people