I don’t expect this to play particularly well here, and maybe I’m just being conspiratorial, but here goes:
I banned jordanlund@lemmy.world from !transgender@lemmy.blahajzone earlier today- he literally posted a matt walsh youtube link and was being otherwise transphobic in a space where that gets you banned. (link)
one of jordanlunds removed comments w/ matt walsh video:
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the reason I put down was ‘trolling about neopronouns’ I stand by that, it was violating instance rules and was unacceptable behavior from a moderator of another instance.
Shortly after that I got banned from news@lemmy.world for ‘trolling’. To be clear, jordanlund does not moderate news@lemmy.world, but the timing struck me as an odd coincidence.
The .world thread in question (link)
I was expressing my actual opinion/position on this, if anything the post I was replying to should be considered a rule 1 violation implying leftists are russian/under russian sway:
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The removed comments that I was banned (permanent) for were just me being earnest about my position, which you’re welcome to disagree with.
I don’t view protecting my rights as something worth sacrificing other people for, even if they’re on the other side of the planet. You can be mad at me or hate me for that, but I’m not trolling.
People replying felt it was reasonable to call me an idiot for example, yet another example of selective moderation. on .world.
I don’t have any conclusive proof that my banning Jordanlund and then getting banned are related other than the suspicious timing, I welcome clarification.
Anyway in the interest of neutrality and transparency I submit both my ban and jordanlunds for review.
I voted in 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024, every year I was legally able to vote, I even registered early when I was 17 in California. I can gladly give you proof I voted in every election I can because my state has ballot tracking.
And is it a better and more peaceful place when liberal status quo protects the companies that socially murder its citizens? Punishment of shoplifting is accepted more than trying to arrest Trump and the Jan 6 attackers? Cops can beat up protestors but not protect families from being evicted by greedy landlords?
Liberals haven’t pushed for the rights of my kind. Liberals defend oppressing my kind because it was normal to hate queer people until recently. Liberal politicians didn’t push for legalization unless it was good for polling numbers. But they gladly sat with their ass on their hands while cops arrested and killed queer people for being happy with themselves.
And I would get into how liberals didn’t push for women’s rights, breaking segregation, ending wars, ending slavery, but I’m not someone who was targeted by them. Liberals don’t stand for what’s right, just what’s currently accepted.
It’s the party of the status quo, even if the status quo includes elements of fascism and oligarchy.
Liberals will soon whitewash Trump, like they whitewashed Bush and his crimes and violations of the constitution.
Whoever downvoted this is delusional.
I wonder what political group…
Biden inherited a shitshow and did some good while in the office.
I don’t agree with his stance on Israel and Palestine but I can almost promise you that it’s going to get worse for the Palestinians while the fascism and oligarchy is already getting out of control.
In reality Trump and Biden/Kamala are both perceived as being terrible candidates. The public thinks it doesn’t matter too much which one they vote for, they are just gonna continue to get fucked over by the rich and powerful no matter what. Fact is, both major US parties primarily represent the interests of capital, not the interests of the public who are just grist to the mill of capitalism. Yes, there is the matter of the degree to which each party capitulates to the rich and powerful, but they are both all-in on it.
Its true the Democrats have been more progressive than the Republicans on certain social issues, but only where those issues were no threat to the status quo. But the moment progressivism butts up against the interests of capital, it loses. Just look at how universal basic income is going, or housing the homeless, or universal free healthcare and education is going. Anything that requires a shift of capital from the rich to the poor is immediately off the table whether the Republicans or Democrats are in power. But allowing gay marriage (for example) cost the Democrats nothing, so why wouldn’t they support it? And it doesn’t give them the moral high ground either, because they only conceded it begrudgingly after dragging their heels until it looked like it wouldn’t negatively impact the vote.
I agree with you that things will get worse under Trump, but then they will continue to get worse under the next government too if all we have to choose from is oligarchy extra strength or oligarchy normal strength.
Oligarchy normal strength is a thousand times better than what is going on right now.
The amount of power that Trump is consolidating around himself right now is insane and all his executive orders he’s signing is signalling exactly what he’s trying to do with his four year and it’s been two days.
But whenever I bring it up people respond with ‘but Trump is the only thing libs have to say.’ when really what else is there to say right now?
All the points you bring up are going to get worse because Trump is in power.
“But trump” - The only point liberals have
Is what I said wrong, though?
“We should stop putting orphans into the orphan crushing machine.”
“What? Didn’t you know the other guy wants to put more orphans into the machine? I say we should be thankful for the old lower amount of orphans crushed.”
Way less orphans getting crushed than there were four days ago, right?
I see, so there is a base amount of crushed orphans you are okay with?
You just answered your question about why people don’t like liberals.
Because they have realistic goals that are obtainable while other groups go for unobtainable ones that cause more pain, death and environmental damage?
The famously realistic and effective liberals who for no reason at all keep losing governments to fascists.
No, but that’s an effective criticism of the Democratic Party choosing to prioritize the status quo of neoliberalism at the continued expense of US citizens (not to mention the victims of US foreign policy), over the prioritization of defeating Fascism by providing genuine solutions for societal problems at the expense of capital owners (such as public housing and universal healthcare) and following US and International Law to stop supplying arms and international support for a genocide.
Liberalism will always side with Fascism over any socialist opposition out of profit incentive, as has been the case historically.