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    What evidence do you have other than “a feeling”? Which is what the republicans have been insisting on since 2020.

    MAYBE there was limited election fraud in swing states. Nation wide, there was consistently lower Democratic turnout in basically every county in every state. That is HOW trump got the popular vote. Because people were too fucking stupid and selfish to go fucking vote.

    So unless trump controlled every single machine in every single county? He won. And if he DID control that, he would have won by much larger and much stupider margins.

    The problem was not “the computers” (that is gonna be the 2026 and 2028 problem…). The problem is that we spent the past 8 years smiling and nodding when self proclaimed leftists can’t go five fucking minutes without ranting about how nobody’s vote matters and we all deserve to suffer because their candidate didn’t win in two thousand and fucking sixteen.

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      5 hours ago

      It’s time to arm yourselves “leftists.”

      I got mine, do you?

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        Oh such a big strong man with a big strong gun.

        What are you going to do when a tank rolls through your house? Or a drone blows it up? Oh, I know, you are going to rise up and fight the power. Except the cops and military have way more guns than you do.

        Let alone the fact that we live in a surveillance state and it will be trivial to track down the crack team of assassins to a suburb that can just be leveled.

        Life is not Red Dawn and you aren’t going to stop the fascists just by screaming “WILDCATS!!” at the top of your lungs. There is a reason the republicans, who have been planning this shit since reagan, are also the party of guns.

        Because they don’t do shit other than act as a lightning rod for morons

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          So your answer is no? That’s not an acceptable answer to me or my family comrade.

          I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety.

          It’s a long listen but worth checking out How Conservatism Won by Robert Evans. He lays out in a clear concise way “how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).” They’ve been very successful and those think tanks are now pipelines used to funnel ideological purists into powerful positions like our current Supreme Court.

          This has been a concerted effort going back almost 70 years, Reagan was just the first actor they hired. One of the primary ghouls/traitors responsible for the attempted overthrow of our government on J6 was Roger Stone, the same traitorous ratfucker who began his career working for Nixon and has a fucking Nixon tattoo on his back. It’s really impossible to overstate just how fuckin’ bad these people are and they’re winning.

          Maybe you don’t have anything to lose friend, that’s great. My suggestion to you would be to sit quietly and let those who do continue the discussion. And I’ll re-iterate for my “leftist” friends now is the time to arm yourselves friends, the police will not protect you. Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could absolutely happen here.

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            Again. What is even your fully automatic assault rifle going to do against a military with tanks, drones, and surveillance on every corner?

            Because that is what we are up against. And I would rather not waste time with security blankets that justify military operations on civilians targets.

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              What is even your fully automatic assault rifle going to do against a military with tanks, drones, and surveillance on every corner?

              Bro IDK where you’re even coming from I didn’t say anything about assault rifles or the military relax.

              The right to bear arms is fundamental, gtfo with your “the other team is the gun team” BS. In the short term, when a truck flying a MAGA flag drives into the local gay community looking for fun I’d like there to be an armed support network for that community since we already know the police response will be slow. Longer term, if infrastructure collapses (or is intentionally neglected) expect to see migrations into rural areas in search of food and other resources. It’s hard to hunt (and defend yourself against fundamentalists with guns) without guns.

              My comment was clearly not meant for you, I’m not sure why you’re so hostile. Would you suggest threatened and marginalized groups remain defenseless?

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                Guess who is going to come out when that “armed support network” does? The guys with tanks who are now up against a terrorist organization.

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                  edit: Look at this clown below calling me a cockroach, idiot. I’m done engaging here for the night. You clearly have nothing at risk, stay unarmed, my comment was not meant for you but for those who may be increasingly at risk over the next decade.

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                    I and my loved ones have plenty to lose.

                    That is why I am not a cockroach using the death of human rights as a thinly veiled excuse to worship guns.

                    Don’t get me wrong, I would love to hear about an easy solution. But you can’t even answer how guns help against the military or even militarized police.