• HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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      1 year ago

      It looks like they are also trying to implement funding for medical treatment as well, which is why the plan can be delayed up to two years.

      But there are grey areas to being an immediate danger to themselves or others. If someone is walking into traffic because they are too high to be aware of their surroundings or a schizophrenic homeless man is randomly yelling at people in a park he lives in, there is a danger.

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        1 year ago

        I would agree such people are a danger to themselves or others, but this law goes beyond that. Here’s the text of it if you’re interested. One need only be using drugs or alcohol or have a mental illness while being homeless.

        • (A) Danger to self.
        • (B) Danger to others.
        • © Grave disability due to a mental health disorder.
        • (D) Grave disability due to a severe substance use disorder.
        • (E) Grave disability due to both a mental health disorder and a severe substance use disorder.

        What is a grave disability?

        Being “gravely disabled” means that someone is no longer able to provide for their own food, clothing, or shelter because of a mental health disorder. WIC § 5008(h). A person may be considered gravely disabled if, for instance, they are no longer eating enough to survive, or they have become unable to maintain housing.

        So being homeless is being gravely disabled and can be used as a reason to forcibly commit the homeless if they use drugs or have a mental condition, regardless of whether they are a danger to themselves and others.

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          1 year ago

          But it is along with mental health issues or substance abuse problems. It isn’t like only being homeless gets you into custody.

          And custody includes putting a roof over a person’s head.

          I don’t see how leaving these people in their current condition is the humane option.

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              1 year ago

              But it isn’t just being gravely disabled that puts you into custody.

              And people keep asking for a kinder method, but what do you do when a person refuses the kinder method? From the looks of it, it sounds like California is trying to build the real housing staffed with social workers to go along with compulsory treatment.