• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    People are conditioned to their environment. It’s like the far right assholes who hate the system but don’t understand that the real enemy is the rich and instead think we need to attack government. Yes, that’s bad too, but class warfare is the real answer while they suck off Musk for his “epic posts.”

    I’m relieved that some amount of awareness is blooming. We can hope that it continues to develop.

      • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        No, the rich programmed their masses to blame everything on whatever left-wing party leader is in charge. That’s what Fox News and the rest of the Murdoch empire is for.

        They need their 8 hours of hate to blame Emmanuel Goldstein for all of the world’s problems.

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        No, I watch police bodycam videos on YT. They’re largely from states like Minnesota, Florida, etc. Largely rural. Largely small towns.

        A Trump-supporting domestic abuser in one of them yesterday was who I had in mind when I commented. They have inaccurate world views, hence why they cling to their dogma. This is due to their news media distorting reality.

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      You’re not going to fight for class warfare if you enable a ruling class to exist above us as “government”.

      Rejection of the state is the first step to liberation, once the rich no longer have the system that perpetuates their wealth acquisition and physically defends them, they won’t last long.

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        Getting rid of any concept of a state is what allows corporations to fill the gap. It’s corporate feudalism. The only thing that can push back against a collective entity is another collective entity.

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          No, it allows people to fill in the gap.

          No one wants authoritarians telling us how to live our lives. People are the priority, not consolidating power into the hands of a few individual rulers.

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            You ask for anarchy without realizing that anarchy is what the rich fucks like elon really dream of. A world without governments where their exclusion from any obligations to society and legal responsibility can be institutionalized.

            And then we have true, official neofeudalism.

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              Muskrat is at best an anarchocapitalist, which isn’t real anarchism because it doesn’t reject hierarchy.

              Really, he’s a what’s best for me fuck everyone else ideology but with white supremacist flavoring. Pick your label for it, but anarchist is not it.

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              Anarchy is communism and he is arguing like a communist

              You are right about why it doesn’t work, someone will just fill the gap

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                Anarchy is not communism.

                Anarchy is a system that doesn’t have an overarching hierarchical governmental system. Anarchy is bottom-up rather than top-down social management.

                Communism can spring from anarchy, but is not a necessary component nor a necessary outcome.

                Libertarians are anarchists, but on the right. Suggest communism to a libertarian and see where it gets you.

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            This does not end up how you think it does. Not allowing for unchecked corporate power doesn’t mean consolidation of government power into the hands of a few.

            Our system is broken because we allow corporations to go around the people and buy influence directly from politicians. Not all systems have to do that.

            But Removing the people that corporations are currently buying influence from doesn’t mean they do being bad. It just means they have even fewer obstacles to doing what they want than they do now.

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        Rejection of the state is the first step to liberation, once the rich no longer have the system that perpetuates their wealth acquisition and physically defends them, they won’t last long.

        Fuck yeah a fellow anarchist 👊🏻