A state spokesperson says a man brought a handgun into the Wisconsin Capitol and demanded to see Gov. Tony Evers and returned at night with an assault rifle.
  • @deegeese@sopuli.xyz
    129•9 months ago

    Why do we allow so many terrorists to own guns?

    If you use a gun to commit a crime, you should lose the right to own guns forever.

    • @Fredselfish@lemmy.world
      38•9 months ago

      Maybe, just Maybe if one of these fucking right wing nuts take out a politician then watch real quick we will get new gun laws. Long as they shooting up schools, and churches and hurting us common folk nothing will change.

    • @giantofthenorth@lemm.ee
      26•9 months ago

      Maybe not 100% of the time but at least 80-90% of the time it’s always the police, or DA failing to do their job properly. If you’re pending a felony trial you cannot own/buy guns until you’re proven innocent, and they should be confiscated. I cannot imagine how this man would not be chargeable.

      Similar goes for many shootings, they plea down to a lesser charge or the cops just don’t do their job and let go obvious crimes.

      • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
        4•9 months ago

        Can’t keep your position as a sheriff or DA who are always “tough on crime”. When you start holding right wing gun owners to the law they get upset and won’t vote for you. They’re the ones most punishment-happy and also simultaneously hold themselves above the law, as events over the last several years should obviously indicate.

    • @pimento64@sopuli.xyz
      19•9 months ago

      Which will promptly turn in to

      As you can see, the defendant, a biological MAN in a dress, was carrying a pistol in HIS purse when HE tried to invade a women’s bathroom to express HIS sick gender delusion. I ask the fine Texans of this jury, would you let this sick MAN rape your daughters at gunpoint?

      I’m not making a sophistical argument, they already do this. It’s just that they currently focus more on codewords like “thug” to make sure a black man who had three joints in his house can never vote again. If you want gun control, arm every LGBT person in the country and Republicans will ban everything more advanced than a rubber band shooter the very next day, just like how the first sweeping gun control legislation was instituted by then-Governor Reagan to keep the Black Panthers down.

      • @deegeese@sopuli.xyz
        8•9 months ago

        Texas will legalize biracial transgender lesbian atheists before Texas starts actually taking people’s guns away.

      • Ragdoll X
        4•9 months ago

        I’m not making a sophistical argument, they already do this.

        Sadly you’re 100% correct. They cling to the bathroom panic even though their arguments have basically no basis whatsoever in reality. Even the “Family Research Council”, a religious right-wing think-tank, was only able to find 23 cases of “bathroom incidents” over the span of 18 years - most of which involved cis men, not trans women or even crossdressers, and two cases of discrimination against trans women who were just using the bathroom. Plus in one case a conservative man entered the women’s changing room when KIDS were changing to “make a point” about a nondiscrimination law that was recently passed. Everything these creeps claim the left is doing is always just projection.

        Meanwhile states that discriminate against trans students have the same rate of sexual assault as other states, and trans teens are much more likely to be victims of assault, especially when they’re denied access to facilities that match their identity:

    • MeanEYE
      6•9 months ago

      Kind of self-explanatory. People who are willing to commit crime with guns also don’t care if law forbids them owning one.

      • @Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world
        -1•9 months ago

        Which is why when you pull back the layers, most efforts to curb gun ownership ultimately leads to full confiscation and bans. Restrictions won’t do what they want.

        • @KevonLooney@lemm.ee
          3•9 months ago

          That’s not true. Banning felons from having guns allows the police to arrest them before a new crime is committed, because they are breaking the gun possession law. They don’t have to wait until the eventual robbery or whatever is in progress.

          It also adds another crime to tack on after the fact to get a confession more easily. It’s easier to prove that a felon possessed a gun than to examine their intent in a minor robbery (robbery vs assault vs attempted murder).

          • @Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world
            -2•9 months ago

            Felons are already prohibited from firearm posession… and have been for quite some time. Violent offenders are regularly released back into the streets. Not sure what your point is.

            • @KevonLooney@lemm.ee
              2•9 months ago

              You said:

              Restrictions won’t do what they want

              I provided some examples of how that gun restriction helps prosecute repeat offenders.

    • @meco03211@lemmy.world
      3•9 months ago

      The trouble with that is you cannot be deprived of rights without due process. You cannot be guilty of committing a crime with a gun without having gone to trial or plead out. It would be highly unlikely to get some law pushed through that survives both NRA opposition/propaganda and the inevitable SCOTUS case.

      Bail could be used if they still pose a risk, but that’s not entirely the point of bail and would also see heavy opposition.

      • @BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
        6•9 months ago

        Due process doesn’t mean found guilty in a court of law. If that’s what it meant then nobody could be held in jail or in police custody even before their trial. If you are booked for a felony, especially one involving a gun, I believe it’s perfectly reasonable to have your guns taken temporarily or permanently if you’re found guilty of a felony offense.

    • @Number1SummerJam@lemmy.worldEnglish
      -1•9 months ago

      Repeal 2A with exceptions for people who actually live in the wilderness or can prove they have a need to own one for their livelihood

  • @hoanbridgetroll@midwest.socialEnglish
    41•9 months ago

    The man was taken into custody for openly carrying a firearm in the Capitol, which is against the law, Warrick said. Weapons can be brought into the Capitol if they are concealed and the person has a valid permit. The man arrested did not have a concealed carry permit, Warrick said.

    The crime wasn’t being a raving lunatic with a gun - it was the lack of paperwork and a shirt to conceal it!

    This is why we need new legislative maps in Wisconsin.

    • @BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
      8•9 months ago

      It wasn’t a Nerf gun, he was carrying a deadly weapon. If you’re too stupid to get a permit or leave your weapon in the car I don’t think you’re responsible enough to own a gun.

  • @spider@lemmy.nz
    28•9 months ago

    Gov. Evers should pull a DeSantis: Put the guy on a plane, fly him down to Florida and dump him there.

  • AutoTL;DRBEnglish
    3•9 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A man illegally brought a handgun into the Wisconsin Capitol, demanding to see Gov.

    Tony Evers, and returned at night with an assault rifle after posting bail, a spokesperson for the state said Thursday.

    The man, who was shirtless and had a holstered handgun, approached the governor’s office on the first floor of the Capitol around 2 p.m. Wednesday, state Department of Administration spokesperson Tatyana Warrick said.

    The man was taken into custody for openly carrying a firearm in the Capitol, which is against the law, Warrick said.

    Madison police reported Thursday that the man, who was not named, was taken into productive custody and taken to the hospital.

    Evers, a Democrat, was on a hit list of a gunman suspected of fatally shooting a retired county judge at his Wisconsin home in 2022.

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  • @agentsquirrel@sh.itjust.works
    2•9 months ago

    The gun violence problem in the US is largely a social problem with a financial upside for some. There is an ongoing financial windfall for gun manufacturers, lobbyist groups, and politicians as efforts against gun violence increase gun owner paranoia, which increases weapons sales, lobbyist organization memberships and donations, and political donations. Until the social problem can be transformed into financial consequences for those who are currently financially benefitting from gun violence or indirectly enabling it, gun violence in the US will never be solved.