Also might be the most unethical coffee in the world too.
I read once that a major reason the coffee is supposed to be good, is that the animals (in the wild) tend to seek out the ripest, healthiest coffee beans to eat. They’re abundant (prior to human intervention), so why settle for less?
But then we cage them and force-feed them whatever, so they’re just medium (or low) quality beans to start with. So even if you look past the cruelty, it’s not even the quality of coffee the reputation suggests.
Iirc correctly the monkey cats ( or however they are called ) actually just prefer a specific coffee plant that is more rarely used as the ones used for the vast amount of coffee in the world ( e.g. robusta or arabica). However, if the beans of this variation are used directly, it tastes exactly the same. There is a scientific paper about this. Long story short: people are drinking shat out coffee for no good reason. What is even worse, it is tried to hold these monkey cats in cages to produce more of this coffee. Again for no good reason. But people fall for the marketing pr gang that the coffee is handpicked by those animals, digested and shat out and they would not go for “yeah we need just to use another plant” because it wouldn’t be so exklusive anymore…
What type of bean? I’d love to try an ethical roast of it.
Can you remember anything about the paper? Authors, journals, anything?
Aha da hat wohl noch jemand methodisch inkorrekt gehört, wollte gerade genau das gleiche schreiben ^^
What do you mean? Force feeding caged animals to shit coffee beans isn’t ethical?
Vast majority of it is just cheap coffee labeled to be this and marked up for tourists / gift market. Have tried it, just tastes like cheap old coffee. It’s not something genuinely sought after by coniseurs.
That makes this even dumber. If it actually had a good taste i could sort of understand it, in a honey sort of way. Sounds like it’s just a silly novelty.
It’s always about the story. Same reason restaurants get 2 and 3 michelline stars. It’s about how pretentious and fancy you can make everything surrounding the meal and not about the meal itelsef.
I’ve eaten at a 2 star Michelin restaurant. It was definitely theater and not a meal. The Menu is one of the best dark humor movies I’ve ever seen because it’s honestly not that far off lol
I really liked that movie!
One star restaurants are the way. They usually have been so focused on their cuisine at that point they haven’t yet become super pretensious. Plus you actually have a shot at getting a table at these.
Loved it as well. My girlfriend and I will sometimes say Yes Chef when one of us asks the other for help with something.
I ate at a restaurant that sold this stuff. It was $85 a cup. I can appreciate a good cup of coffee but never at that price (monetary or cruelty).
I saw it in a torréfacteur in Paris, it was about €70 for 250g of beans
They must’ve taken you for a right mug 😂
It’s done for the aromatic flavors.
Shit flavours???
Hmmm, you can really smell the compost
Yep! I first learned about it from The Bucket List…
Kopi luwak, also known as civet coffee, is a coffee that consists of partially digested coffee cherries, which have been eaten and defecated by the Asian palm civet (Paradoxurus hermaphroditus). The cherries are fermented as they pass through a civet’s intestines, and after being defecated with other fecal matter, they are collected.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_luwak
It tastes smoother and is good. Their digestion of the beans strips the outer layer of the bean and changes the flavor.
Is it better? Not really. I have had it in Bali from a farm and it was very smooth. Turkish coffee is better.
You can make some for yourself.
Step 1) Eat a bunch of coffee beans
Step 2)
You can make some for yourself.
Number 1) Eat a bunch of coffee beans
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Certified coffee snob here: We laugh at the people who think Kopi luwak is good.
I’d imagine that’s mutual
Nah, whoever drinks that shit (no pun intended, really) has lost the right to laugh at anyone.
That’s some major shit 😐
Honestly, I wish I could lay a snake half the size of my body just to say I did
The coffee was surprisingly pretty good
Granted I don’t exactly run in the conspicuous consumption crowd, so maybe I’m out of the loop. Cope Luwak was a thing I heard about in the late 90s but have never seen in the world, ever.
I suppose this is one of those products that has a reputation for being expensive so rich people buy it to flex and that creates some demand. Like gold pizzas or whatever other dumb shit gaudy nouveau riche assholes are doing to get attention.
I’m sure there are places in the world where you can forage the shits and have something unique, but I highly doubt that what makes its way to fintech bros in manhattan has any real value at all. Just a cruel gimmick.
There are apps that cost thousands of dollars that display a jpeg that say “You are rich” and rich people buy it to flex to other rich people.
They have too much money.
Stephen Fry gave some to Prince Charles iirc
Edit. It was weasel vomit according to this
https://www.tumblr.com/whitepajamas/1491643197/alan-davies-is-it-true-that-you-gave-prince
Apparently I’m behind on the latest in coffee trends
I wish it was the latest. This animal abuse has been going on a long time.
It’s actually pretty old, now. I just can’t believe people are willing to drink the stuff, better or not.
Curiosity
At least by a few decades
Sometimes I question myself if we are really intelligent beings. Who the hell thought of making coffee out of a monkey’s butt? or whatever that is.
My guess is, since they eat coffee cherries, some farmer had his harvest ruined and washed the seeds out from the shit in desperation, just to get told it’s the best coffee somebody has ever had.
You can squeeze the water out of elephant crap and drink it. Humans figured out fermentation a long time ago. This isn’t too much of a stretch given humans also know that animal poop is usable in other ways agriculturally.
You can also use it to make an organic fleshlight.
Delet plz
Lol that would be dumb af, of course it’s a cat.
the story I heard (from an Indonesian dude) was the colonial plantations didn’t allow locals to drink coffee. They noticed the civits only ate the ripest coffee berries… bla bla bla, shit coffee was the only choice and it was really good?
The “who made beverage X from Y’s excrement” has been a question for ages.
to be fair, koalas do it so… maybe the great ancestor we lucked out with were avid koala watchers.
Same energy as the people who invented birds nest soup
I’ve always said coffee smells like shit
Agreed, it’s awful
You’re awful! Coffee is wonderful! You just don’t understand it! I mean regular coffee not cat poop coffee…that’s just weird.
It’s just like, my opinion man, you’re allowed to like your poo beans
How can a creature have shit like that?
I don’t know the history of the photo, but I know some Kopi Luwak ‘producers’ force feed the civets coffee cherries to maximise production. So I can’t say this is a natural shit for a civet, because it could be human induced.
Imagine being forced to shit a log, so that some fancy pants can have exotic coffee
Considering how the civets treat coffee cherries, this would be like if some aliens were forcefeeding you glazed donuts for the same purpose. Abuse in many cases, but it started with a natural attraction being exploited. Ethical sources still uses attracted wild civets or cage free farms
I’m Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite comment on lemmy.
“Hey! Everyone! This website discriminates against the poor!”
Eat a bunch of whole coffee beans and you probably will too.
It actually comes out more like coffee grounds
Man looking at that shit I bet it feels amazing after pinching that out
I have a bag of this stuff but I hate coffee and poo so I haven’t tried it.
I always thought coffee already tasted like shit, so…
Maybe the shit cancels out the coffee flavor
I’ve had this coffee before. Doesn’t taste any different than regular coffee
How “Pearson’s Original Salted Nut Rolls” are made.
