Okay, hear me out here. Maybe we should stop treating housing as a commodity and allowing companies and individuals to accumulate large property “portfolios”?
Because this is the fucking problem; homes are not commodities to hold in a portfolio, they’re homes for people to live in.
The UK seems to have this as a recurring problem, we are the only modern economy that has a fully privatised water supply, something which is essential for human existence. Housing is a basic right, yet we allow massive profit to take priority over that.
That’s not the issue though.
Arguably it is. The root cause is the same - treating basic necessities as investment vehicles
This is a good idea but I have no idea how they would implement that in law
Could be done fairly easily via the tax system. Each additional property you own increases the income tax on any rent and the capital gains tax when selling it. Bump up council tax for empty properties massively too and the market should correct itself with minimal direct intervention.
Set it up so having a second home means paying more for it, having 3 or 4 or 10 means it’s not profitable to keep it at all.
I read an article a few years ago about how some luxury London flats were sold indirectly - you purchased a company (which did nothing) and gained all their assets (which consisted of only one flat). You didn’t own the flat, you owned a shell company which owned it; it’s the same problem as having the wealthy create companies to avoid income tax. I think massive taxation for extra property ownership is a great idea, but I have no idea how you make it work.
Okay, but how does it work when a company owns a house? If a property developer builds a load of houses, wouldn’t they be incentivised to sell the house for more to recoup the penalty to them?
I think if it’s a first time build you could work something out to not punish developers for building houses which take a little time to sell, but you’d also want to avoid developers building and sitting on properties. That will probably already happen though as they’ll want to recoup construction costs asap I imagine. For portfolio property buyers they’ll be incentivised to sell which is only a good thing.
That is far too lenient on the landleeches
Just seize them and kick them out on their arse
It wouldn’t be because people owning multiple houses is not the issue. Going to have to paste my usual response from Reddit to people thinking that landlords and second houses are the problem.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2022-0001/
In total, the EHS estimates that English households owned 873,000 second homes, of which 495,000 were second homes located in the UK.
https://citymonitor.ai/government/england-short-4-million-homes-here-s-how-we-can-build-them-3921
And there are 27.8 million homes in the UK, and we are apparently short 4 million.
So we ban second homes and that releases almost 450,000 houses which is less than 2% of the housing stock and we are still short 3.5 million houses, now what do we do?
The EHS defines these as “homes that are primarily used as holiday homes (by family, friends or let to others as a holiday let) or are occupied while working away from home.”
This clearly doesn’t include regular rental properties, so I don’t see how it shows landlords are not a problem.
Well there are 4 million rental properties in the UK so your numbers don’t quite add up. A very significant number of properties are purchased and rented as investment assets. No one is saying that ending landlord property portfolios will magically fix the issue overnight, but it certainly adds inflationary pressure on house prices and prices normal people out from being able to purchase homes. Houses should be homes first, not speculative assets.
Through taxation policy it should be possible for a family to move home and rent their old one, or rent an inherited one whilst waiting to sell, etc without much additional burden. But we shouldn’t encourage private entities pricing out normal people from homes and forcing entire generations to only be renters.
The economic damage from high house prices and lack of generational wealth is way too expensive to allow this portion of the market to continue. Simultaneously we need to be building a fuckload more homes, yes, but there being other things to change shouldn’t dismiss other helpful ideas.
Abolish landlording completely
Or, in legal terms, “an entity may not own a home if they cannot demonstrate that they occupy the residence for more than 10 months a year”
I don’t think landlords as a concept are a completely bad idea
There is no good reason to own a home you don’t live in.
There is a good reason to not buy a home that you live in though
Lol
Put a cap on the maximum value a house can be based on bedrooms / floorspace? It’ll never happen since those in power won’t want their million pound houses suddenly being worthless.
Land lordship is a time honored tradition in England.
A world beating housing crisis you say?
Now that’s levelling up!
Less of a housing issue, more of a cost of living issue.
We’ve had a housing issue in the UK since long before the ‘cost of living’ crisis started to affect the middle-classes.
Canada?
Something tells me the English people who said that haven’t been to Canada.
Canada was included in the report. The article seems to be focussing on the amount of vacant properties, which is 8.2% for Canada and 2.7% for UK
Yeah, I figure Canada probably has more houses (more space) but the prices to buy or let are much worse over there. We’re not far behind, though.
London is a lot more expensive than Toronto https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Toronto&country2=United+Kingdom&city2=London&displayCurrency=GBP
My rent is 60% of my income. That along with the cost of living crisis, I’m stuck in a debt spiral.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
About a quarter of private renters in the UK are also “overburdened” by housing costs – spending more than 40% of income, compared with just 9% in France and 5% in Germany, according to OECD data.
Labour has said it might release greenbelt for building when it is “dilapidated, neglected scrubland” and will “put social and genuinely affordable housing at the very heart of our plans to jump-start the housebuilding industry”.
Stewart Baseley, the executive chair of the HBF said the figures are “a wake-up call, demonstrating the urgent need to act now to prevent us falling even further behind”.
The study found the UK has the lowest number of homes built since 1980 of any of Spain, France, Portugal, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary.
The construction industry has been frustrated by the government’s stop-start approach to planning reforms, as it has weighed the need for more building against opposition from voters in Tory constituencies concerned about over-development.
By contrast the share of the population living with leaking roofs, damp or rot in Poland was 6% and 12% in Germany, figures from Eurostat show.
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10% of Tory donations come from housebuilders. They are probably happy keeping demand artificially high and are paying to keep it that way.
Nobody should be talking about building on the greenbelt, that’s the point of the greenbelt. Where I used to live in London the council was constantly trying to get permission to build on the greenbelt when 500m away there was a huge plot of dilapidated concrete, I guess where there used to be a factory or something. But they were constantly talking about the greenbelt.
Housing developers love greenbelt because they don’t have to pay for the rubble and land clearing of brown belt land.
But renters on Wednesday night issued their own warning that “lots of expensive market-rate housing won’t bring housing costs down to affordable levels for the millions of people trapped in poverty by sky-high rents”.
Sure it will. Housing price is a function of supply and demand, like everything else. If you don’t have enough supply of housing in London for people who want to live in London, then what happens is that housing prices rise until sufficient people are priced out.
If a developer builds new housing, then someone is going to live in it. If that person is living in that housing, then they aren’t living in some other housing in London, which will make that housing more-affordable.
But what if a developer only builds luxury housing and nobody wants to live in it?
A developer has a pretty strong incentive not to build something that nobody actually wants, so that’s unlikely to be a serious problem – their incentive is not to do this. But, sure, assume that happens. Then that developer is going to need to recoup what they can by selling the development for what they can, even at a loss. The parties who invested in that development will wind up covering some of the cost of buying housing for people in London.
What’s at issue isn’t “fancy housing” or “not-fancy housing”. It’s the quantity of housing. Build more of whatever type of housing, and the price of housing will drop.
As long as one can profitably build housing – the price of land and the price of construction and a reasonable return is lower than the price of housing – developers have every incentive to build. They only won’t build if they aren’t allowed to do so.
Removing or relaxing London’s height restrictions might be a good place to start.
While the free market should be able to correct the problem, it can’t.
I can’t talk specifically about the uk, but in the US many locales have strict zoning regualtions that hamper building medium density cheap housing, perfect for all these people that can’t afford to live where there’s work.
Examples are things like minimum parking requiements, driveway setbacks, and limitations on multifamily homes.
You’re contradicting yourself. There’s no free market when you have zoning regulations. That’s the issue in Britain as well - too much red tape everywhere and too many fees to get any permissions. Builders are not allowed to build as much as they want or as much as people need. The housing crisis is created artificially by the government.
Yes prices go up and people get priced out that is the bloody problem!
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