• OhStopYellingAtMe
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    369 months ago

    I’m looking to buy a new car within the next year. If it doesn’t offer Apple CarPlay, I won’t even bother looking at the car.

    • @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      -159 months ago

      Personally I tried Android Auto it with a company car (nothing fancy).

      Couldn’t care less. Give me bluetooth and a USB port to plugin my smartphone and I will bring my phone holder.
      No need for stuff that will get outdated and needs dealer updates (if they are even supplied).

      • @Die4Ever@programming.dev
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        249 months ago

        will get outdated and needs dealer updates

        I thought Android Auto and Apple CarPlay both handle updates on the phone side, not the car side?

        • @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 months ago

          I don’t know anything about the software but there surely is some implementation on both sides as I don’t believe it’s just a pretty chromecast/apple version of that interface streamed from the phone.

          And assuming you keep a car for >5 years and the strides tech does at any point (just look back on phones 10 years ago) and Google/Apple developing the platform further and abandoning older models I don’t see a very bright future.

          Assuming I am wrong, I am happy to be corrected.

          Edit: No need to downvote me to hell. I was wrong and corrected >_>

          • @Die4Ever@programming.dev
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            59 months ago

            I think it might literally be a video feed? or similar to an X11 session? I know it doesn’t work over bluetooth and it requires a wire or wifi, so it’s bandwidth heavy for sure

            • @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              19 months ago

              If that’s actually the case: Neat

              Hope they do not drop support for the APIs to allow access via the interface so cars have a long life.

              • @sky@codesink.io
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                59 months ago

                There have been CarPlay compatible cars on the market for 8 years now and they work fine with newer iPhones. Hell, Apple still supports the iPod USB protocol for even older cars on new iPhones.

                It’s not much of a concern, in my opinion. And I drive a car with no CarPlay and only built-in infotainment lol

      • @beefcat@lemmy.world
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        No need for stuff that will get outdated and needs dealer updates (if they are even supplied).

        This is specifically why people like CarPlay and Android Auto; they are managed by your phone instead of the car manufacturer. If you bought one of the first CarPlay capable cars in 2014, it still works with the new CarPlay features that just shipped in iOS 17 last week.

        CarPlay and Android Auto basically turn your infotainment system into a dumb terminal for your phone. They work by turning it into a second display. All the head unit has to do is relay touch inputs back to the device. It is completely unaware of what actual software is running, it just sees a video signal and your fingers.

        This is also probably why Tesla and General Motors don’t like it. They want you to pay them for the new features you otherwise get for free with your phone.

        • @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          -89 months ago

          If that is so, that’s really cool.

          But other users said it already and I agree: Not everythibg needs to be smart.
          Really had attentiom issues with this whole infotainment system while driving.
          So I’d agree: Less is better. More knobs amd keys instead of a large pane of touchscreen. Also the whole infosec about cars is probably still only surface level. Who knows what outdated piece of tech lingers in the depths.

          • @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            19 months ago

            Ah yes, such overly smart features as… your navigation on the screen, your currently playing music app, and maybe a handful of driving specific apps.

            It’s literally just the same stuff you would normally expect, but with the ability to install/change/update completely independently of the car.

            Also not sure what the age of the parts of the car have to do with anything. Are you concerned your 20 year old tv is suddenly going to be sprouting an autonomous cellular connection and broadcasting your content to the internet?

  • @YeezyUmplebutter@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    I would much rather a car manufacturer focus on making sure the hardware is nice to use rather than coming out with some Ass-software that they came up with in house. Also, I’m going to connect my phone to the radio anyways so why reinvent software to make it less compatible then the native software my phone manufacturer has already R&D’ed pretty well. I assume there is some licensing bullshit with either CarPlay or Android Auto that could be playing a factor. But I would still rather the manufacturer focus on a nice feeling, high refresh rate, bright display rather than focus on some new clunky interface they develop.

    • Dudewitbow
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      Car conpanies want to sell you subscriptions to services, and killing off carplay/auto would do that.

      Need a gps? you either use your phone screen to navigate with audio or be forced to use their navigation service on the hud.

      • fryOPM
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        129 months ago

        I seriously wouldn’t buy a car at this point if it didn’t have CarPlay or Android Auto in it. Navigation with Google Maps or Waze is vastly superior to anything a car company is ever going to come up with (props to Apple Maps too for making big improvements in the last several years). Integrated music experiences where I can directly see my Spotify playlists or favorite tracks without touching my phone is just something I’m used to and couldn’t go back. Having a voice assistant that works from Google / Apple (I know Siri is rough sometimes lol) will always be better than any voice controls a car company comes up with. Oh, and huuuge points to Overcast for just reliably being the best podcast app for many years and having a super easy to navigate CarPlay app. I’d lose all of that and more if there was no integration with my phone and we went back to the awful bluetooth pairing that we had before with terrible UI design and no support for third party apps.

        At this point, that’s more important to me than whatever engine they’ve stuck in it. Just give me good mileage, pass inspection and last at least 150k miles and we’re good. I’m not drag racing so I don’t need a rocket ship lol

    • @youRFate@feddit.de
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      39 months ago

      Same on my Kia ev6. It has a smaller display with 2 physical twist knobs under the the main screen. That can be used for climate or media control, independent of the main screen.

    • fryOPM
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      39 months ago

      That’s awesome! I think there’s a newer generation of CarPlay from Apple that lets the auto-makers use the Apple UI for everything, including the spedometers, climate and other gauges. If that data can be integrated into third party apps, I think developers would come up with some really cool things.

      I really wish my Hyundai would let me do that, maybe I should look into Nissan for my next car haha. How have you been finding the Leaf? I’ve only heard good things about it from others.

        • fryOPM
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          19 months ago

          It has an adapter to plug into the CCS2 standard-compliant connector, right? Otherwise you’d be left out of the vast majority of the charging network.

      • Uprise42
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        19 months ago

        I would not recommend a leaf. I had a ton of fun with that car, and it was a great intro to EV car. But it’s short range and the fact that it’s a discontinued model are a turn off for me though. If you like Nissan the Ariya is a good choice I hear though

          • Uprise42
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            19 months ago

            Maybe it’s your country’s version, but my 2018 leaf had 150 miles brand new which equates to 241 km. My Niro EV gets close to 250 miles which is closer to 400 km

  • @Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    59 months ago

    I’m not in love with the idea of CarPlay/Android Auto sucking up all of our personal information, but removing the mere choice of using them doesn’t make me happy.

    Car infotainment is traditionally crap when it’s new and systems which update seemingly get slower and generally worse over time. Casting your phone interface let’s you escape the first world problem of shitty UI/UX.

    • Zerlyna
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      79 months ago

      We already give our info to either Apple or Android. Using the car’s software is yet another company getting your info.

    • Ghostalmedia
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      19 months ago

      IMHO, car manufacturers suck at data privacy. At least Apple tells people what is being tracked, what the data is used for, and gives people prominent opt outs. And now Google is starting to get into that game.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    29 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    This has not sat well with every automaker; in March of this year, General Motors made headlines—and generated a lot of comments—when it announced it was killing off support for casting interfaces (both CarPlay and Android Auto) from its future products.

    This little-known feature is only offered to OEMs and allows them freedom beyond the restrictive user interface guidelines laid down by Apple.

    The app presents a series of tiles on the screen, configurable by the user, which allow you to change the climate settings, switch between favorited radio stations (AM, FM, and Sirius XM), or change the interior lighting.

    The My Porsche App also integrates with Apple Maps and allows you to create favorite locations or local searches (for a coffee shop, for instance).

    Although the freedom of the Automaker toolkit would have allowed Porsche to make the app look just like its native infotainment system, it didn’t.

    And again, the goal for us is that customers, when they’re not in the car, they are using the iPhone, iPad, MacOS, Apple Watch, they are very familiar with this UX, UI.


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    • BombOmOm
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      109 months ago

      As long as absolutely everything one will press while driving is a physical button, I’m OK with it. However, putting climate control etc on the touch screen is downright dangerous as they require one to take their eyes off the road.