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BrikoX@lemmy.zipM to Global News@lemmy.zipEnglish · 11 months ago

Innocent Israelis, Bad Arabs? How the Media Scripted Amsterdam's Soccer Violence

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Innocent Israelis, Bad Arabs? How the Media Scripted Amsterdam's Soccer Violence

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The NYT, BBC, CNN, among others emphasized the attacks on Israeli fans, while minimizing the anti-Arab racism that seemingly provoked much of the violence.

Note: full article is paywalled.

The NYT, BBC, CNN, among others emphasized the attacks on Israeli fans, while minimizing the anti-Arab racism that seemingly provoked much of the violence.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/kzDLr

SpinScore: https://spinscore.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fzeteo.com%2Fp%2Famsterdam-violence-maccabi-anti-arab-antisemitism-media

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    There were chat groups planning a Jew hunt for that day weeks in advance. Screenshots exist.

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      So include them in your post that otherwise just proves the point of the article?

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        https://www.thejc.com/news/world/amsterdam-taxi-drivers-accused-of-using-social-media-to-coordinate-attacks-on-israeli-football-fans-tnk5khpd

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          The article included several unsourced quotes from some kind of chat groups which are also potentially translated, no way to verify. And then they included a random unsourced screenshot which has “translation” added on top it, removing original content that would help verify authenticity. That’s not proof you claim it to be… Not only basic fact checking disproves it, but article itself quotes Uber spokesperson indicating there were no reports.

          A story on how the claim that was rejected by Uber. And Israeli PR machine trying to make something out of nothing.

          An Uber spokesperson tweeted saying they were “shocked to hear of this abhorrent violence” and were supporting Dutch authorities with their investigation.

          They claimed, “there were no reported incidents of violence or antisemitism on the Uber app,” and did not respond to allegations that drivers perpetrated physical violence.

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              Well, since they are cooperating with Dutch authorities, lying wouldn’t be in their best self-interest. And so far nobody proven otherwise.

              Random claims are not evidence.

              EDIT: Same issue with AP article, no sources, just random unsourced quote.

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      I’d like to see that. I have been following everything closely, and a lot of rumors are used as truths. From both sides… can you post some links?

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          I asked for the screenshots, none given. These look like doctored communications, the maker did not realize these (mostly uneducated) people do not chat in English?

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          Also here. I asked for the screenshots, none given. These are clearly manipulated.

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      Doesn’t mean the Israelis were innocent

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          Calling this a pogrom is like calling my stubbed toe a war crime buddy

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          The world starts to see through your bullshit. You cannot manipulate the truth forever you know

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          Blablabla

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      Do you deny the genocide perpetrated by the IDF?

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          “Dense urban environment” jezz I wonder why it’s so dense lmao it’s a ghetto.

          “They didn’t kill enough people” is a disgusting way to deny genocide.

          The IDF could easily kill ten times as much per day, if they wanted to. If the IDF wanted to genocide Gaza, we would be at a million deaths at least by now.

          “It wasn’t intentional”

          Remember that Palestinian terrorists managed to kill more than 1000 Israelis in one day with mostly small arms

          “It was self defense”

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_denial

              “It wasn’t or isn’t ‘genocide,’ because …” They may enter definitional or rhetorical argumentation.

              The ICJ have received threat from the United States, who literally threatened to invade the haag. Their words cannot be trusted anymore. Anybody would bow to this kind of pressure.

              Meanwhile, the israeli, with their yank, german and british complicity, attacked Irish peacekeeper. If there was any justice, the rest of europe would attack the axis of evil (germany, britain, USA).

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      Today it has become clear (see mayor/police report) that these messages appeared on the day of the game after the attack on a taxi driver, and not weeks in advance.

      I request you to remove that lie.

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