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  • Mario_Dies.wav
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    5141 year ago

    Companies issuing refunds in the form of gift cards is just straight-up insulting

    • eric
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      And it may be illegal in some states to not offer the customer an actual refund.

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          I know they probably actually meant the States of the US, but…

          They did say states with a lowercase s. ‘States’ = regions within a country, ‘states’ = can mean countries. Technically they aren’t defaulting to the US.

        • @PeachMan@lemmy.world
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          81 year ago

          TBH I would expect stronger consumer protections in the UK…but I definitely don’t know about this type of refund specifically.

          • @HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world
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            31 year ago

            The UK, for all its problems, does typically have some of the best consumer protections in the world. I can see Amazon being forced to overturn this if there’s enough uproar (which there might not be tbf, seeing as they gave extra credit as compo).

        • @NeverNudeNo13
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          Many countries other than the US are comprised of a federation of states. And also those that aren’t are generally considered nation states or sovereign states, which are still definitively states. The United States of America do not have an exclusive right on statehood.

          Plus even though it may be implied that the original replier intended the context to mean the United States of America… it is a valid response with further implication that one should check their local jurisdiction’s laws if they were so inclined to do so.

      • @MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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        51 year ago

        Wait a minute, the US doesn’t have a blanket consumer law federally?

        This sounds like a pain.

        Federally this is against Australian Consumer Law. Didn’t offer the service you paid for? Better believe that’s a refund.

    • @xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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      And is that amount of money enough to replace the item that’s been taken away? Like if the DVD were widely available at the same price at the time of the digital purchase, but you got the Amazon “purchase” instead (for convenience?) then what are the odds that you can still get the DVD for that price today?

  • @fubo@lemmy.world
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    Remember, streaming only has a business model as long as it has a better user experience than piracy. That’s why iTunes took off in the era of Napster. When a streaming service’s user experience drops below that of digging up pirate treasure off a shitty ad-ridden torrent site, that service is not long for the world.

    • @Weslee@lemmy.world
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      1151 year ago

      I cancelled Netflix and prime and went back to piracy a few months ago, it’s been a nice blast from the past

      • Mario_Dies.wav
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        In addition to piracy, I’ve also been checking out DVDs from my local library. It’s kinda fun.

        Surprised myself because I half expected I’d miss the convenience of Netflix, but I haven’t missed it even a little.

        “Was I a good streaming platform?”

        “No.”

        • @Peaty@sh.itjust.works
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          521 year ago

          The benefit of the library DVD is it takes away the “What will we watch tonight?” conversation. You’re going to watch the DVD.

        • @epyon22@sh.itjust.works
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          261 year ago

          It was nice when you could actually watch almost everything on it. Once everyone else started taking peices of the pie it just feels like cable with more hoops now

          • @DoomsdaySprocket@lemmy.ca
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            21 year ago

            Every time I open a streaming service now, the things I want to watch are locked into an extra subscription. I generally end up just walking away rather than watching anything, and when I do dig around and find some thing else that is available on “my tier,” it absolutely wasn’t worth it.

            Forget even piracy, I’m just not watching anything anymore. When streaming makes my chore list look more attractive, they’ve definitely fucked up.

        • Freeman
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          151 year ago

          The only reason I keep Netflix is kids.

          We don’t really watch it otherwise.

          Even my in-laws are now pirates using hacked amazon fire sticks that are being hawked around their retirement community.

          My mother in law is like “I get every streaming service and channel for 1 dollar a day, isn’t that great”.

          I’m all “if it’s simple and works for you yeah, absolutely. “

          • @proudblond@lemmy.world
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            We’re about to cancel Netflix despite my kids’ protests and start rotating. My husband just wanted to watch the new Castlevania and then we’re cutting and running — for a while at least. It’ll end up on the rotation again at some point.

            If streaming services ever make us sign up for more than a month at a time, we’ll be hard-pressed to keep doing it the “right” way.

            • @yeather@lemmy.ca
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              71 year ago

              This is a great time to teach your kids Internet piracy and internet safety at the same time! Don’t click the pictures of the nice lady and you get to watch your show lol

              • @KnightontheSun@lemmy.world
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                “These hot babes are most certainly NOT in your area.”

                I think this is an excellent notion and allows you to better shape their foray into the subject matter. They will be the cool kids, but you’d have to instill the “no talking about Usenet” type of rule. No boasting.

          • Mario_Dies.wav
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            21 year ago

            I have a mini PC running Linux that connects to my TV via hdmi so we can watch anything!

            • Freeman
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              I have a mini-pc running a plex vm. And all the TVs are Rokus. So can watch anything, including live broadcast tv. And the roku is so simple kids can operate it, and do.

              • Mario_Dies.wav
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                I have a Roku too, which I mainly use for work trips.

                What I did at home was get one of those cheap rechargeable wireless keyboards with trackpad for like $10 so that we can browse for what we want to watch from the sofa.

        • @electrogamerman@lemmy.world
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          81 year ago

          I would change that to:

          “Was I a good streaming platform?”

          “Yes, during your first year. Then all companies went greedy monkey savage and ruined it”

        • @Weslee@lemmy.world
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          31 year ago

          I bought a raspberry pi, a SATA SSD and usb adaptor, and installed Plex now I’m the new netflix for my family, they send me movies and shows they want to watch and I put them on there, then they connect to my server and watch

          It’s been really good

      • bean
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        21 year ago

        Netflix will also be raising prices soon. Again.

        • @Weslee@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          Use yts.mx, if you use any other site, try checking comments first if they have them, if not you can use torrent file viewer to check the download is actually a video file before downloading

          Lastly you could try anti virus, but don’t rely on it to do your job for you, they can catch most but not always all viruses

    • @dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      191 year ago

      Paying 0.99 per song was how a better user experience? Music piracy was pretty big till Spotify. No service was even close before.

      • @FlounderBasket@lemmy.world
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        Being able to easily purchase a single song from a reputable source in the comfort of your home instead of going out to physically buy an entire album and then rip it to your computer was a better user experience, yes. Most users are technologically illiterate, and trying to pirate stuff just lead to them getting viruses.

      • @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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        Because you were guaranteed that what you were downloading was what it said it was, and was high quality, and would have the correct tagging and album art and all of that.

        It’s been shown repeatedly that a large part of piracy isn’t about cost, it’s about convenience. It was easier to pay $0.99 and get what you wanted when you wanted it, than download 8 files off of Napster and hope that one of them was actually a decent bitrate and was the song the title said it was.

        Back when eMule was a thing, it was super common to spend an entire day downloading a 700MB video file at 5kb/s, only for it to be Fight Club instead of whatever you thought you were downloading. It’s the same thing with music.

        • @AliasWyvernspur@lemmy.world
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          It’s been shown repeatedly that a large part of piracy isn’t about cost, it’s about convenience. It was easier to pay $0.99 and get what you wanted when you wanted it, than download 8 files off of Napster and hope that one of them was actually a decent bitrate and was the song the title said it was.

          “We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable.”

          -Gabe Newell

          Sauce: http://web.archive.org/web/20120307035423/http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114391-Valves-Gabe-Newell-Says-Piracy-Is-a-Service-Problem

        • @dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Music piracy was big till spotify apprared. iTunes had a limited selection, music remixes, small band stuff were not available. iTunes only had what Sony and some other music distributors supplied. I understand what you are saying but still, piracy was there and iTunes was not primary source. Spotify came and now music piracy is basically limited to high quality audio albums which is a niche market.

        • @AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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          Or, with Napster, the person you’re downloading from signs off when you’re 40% done with the download.

          • @fubo@lemmy.world
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            Kazaa/Gnutella era: it says porn on the filename, but there’s no previews and it turns out to be CSAM. Thanks for the trauma, now I’m gonna run shred

    • @SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world
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      Or buy it on physical media. More and more studios are pulling their disks and it is getting harder to find. If you have a disk, it can never be recalled.

      • @RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net
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        Ever since Disney announced they are also going to ban account sharing, I’ve been going to thrift stores and grabbing any DVDs my children like or might like. I’ve gotten quite a few classics so far for less than the cost of one month of Disney+. I almost bought a VCR because the VHS collection at thrift stores here is huge and they are so cheap, but rewinding sucks.

        • Pxtl
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          I don’t think you realize how unwatchably blurry VHS is. I can’t believe we ever watched those things now.

          DVD is still a bit of a nuisance because of aspect ratios and they’re a little blurry because SD, but VHS is just garbage.

          • @RoquetteQueen@slrpnk.net
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            I still have my CRT and old game consoles and use them sometimes. The blurriness with the games doesn’t bother me, but maybe a movie would be worse. I am constantly forgetting my glasses though so I’m kind of used to blurry. I still might grab a VCR if I see one, though, just to show my children what it was like when I was a kid. Could be fun.

            • @pimento64@sopuli.xyz
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              ^^eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

              • threelonmusketeers
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                The ability to hear this comment is dependent on the reader’s age in a rather interesting way.

              • konalt
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                Nothing better than a 15625hz sawtooth tone.

      • Pxtl
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        61 year ago

        I haven’t looked into it, but doesn blu ray need some kind of connectivity to manage its cryptography?

        • @SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world
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          The encryption keys are stored on the disk I believe. I use MakeMKV and load the files into my media center software (Jellyfin). That works for DVDs, Blu-rays and 4K disks just fine. Every once in a while if I get a 4K early, the keys haven’t been updated yet and I have to give it a day (usually less) before it rips.

        • @SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          I mean, yeah, but so what? We are talking about an article where Amazon pulled a video someone purchased down so they can never watch it again. I have never heard of a company recalling physical media and demanding it’s return.

      • @Malfeasant@lemm.ee
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        But it can just stop playing… I have a handful of discs, still in cases, look pristine, no scratches, and yet can’t be read by either my computer or DVD player. No recourse. It’s a separate problem of course, but similar.

        • @SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          Disks can degrade or be manufactured badly. If they never play you can usually get a warranty replacement. Old disks can degrade, but I have many 20+ year old DVDs that play fine.

    • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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      131 year ago

      This is a non-story.

      “Who knew $EvilCo would fuck me over for a sub-$10 profit?!”

      I never stopped stealing media, and I never will.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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        You can’t steal media unless you steal the medium.

        Copyright infringement is a crime you might commit but by its draconian length, most cases are the public taking back what’s rightfully ours.

        Superman II (any version) should be in the public domain.

    • 小莱卡
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      111 year ago

      Kinda crazy that pirates have more ownership over media than people buying it 😂

      • @SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world
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        According to my local (Dutch) laws, I don’t need to own a physical copy. A YouTube purchase is sufficient for me to legally download a copy over p2p, I’m just not allowed to upload it.

        We’re still being charged “thuiskopie” taxes on storage devices, so I’m still allowed to make copies for personal use, either via the app I bought it on, or as an MKV found on torrent sites.

        • @stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca
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          This is banking on someone else providing the data you want when you want it. Things on torrent sites do disappear especially if they are more niche media.

          • @SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world
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            Yeah, but I usually buy it somewhere and then torrent it. Except for YouTube, most UIs aren’t all that dashing (or just slow, like Prime).

    • @Chailles@lemmy.world
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      Amazon’s Music service, while it takes some hoops to jump through, actually does let you download music. Though I don’t know if that’s a general policy or on a per music/per artist basis.

      • Neshura
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        I get the feeling they’re trying to get rid of that feature, whenever I try to download something there I have to jump through an increasing number of hoops to get the download option to appear.

        • @Chailles@lemmy.world
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          I’m fairly certain it’s been the same number of hoops to get there. Same with actually trying to buy it specifically.

          But yeah, its so sequestered away that honestly, I’d probably just outright pirate it if it wasn’t for the fact that it’s readily available on release and I’m familiar with the methodology of it.

    • @Anamana@feddit.de
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      Why is owning sth you might watch once every 10 years so important? I don’t care about it, as long as it isn’t some niche content or stuff I watch every year.

      • @RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world
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        Because paying actual money for something that can be taken away with the changing of ever shifting IP ownership and steaming rights is a giant waste of money.

        • @Anamana@feddit.de
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          I disagree. Like I said, I don’t need to ‘own’ something I rarely use. I’m fine just borrowing it for a couple of days as well.

  • HiramFromTheChi
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    It’s easy to scoff at this whole “You will own nothing, and you will be happy” phrase, but it’s really gone too far already.

    • @Gerbler@lemmy.ml
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      I’m really tired of hearing “you don’t own it you own a license to it” like it’s some revelation for people complaining. We’re aware that the system has been constructed to benefit media companies at the expense of consumers.

      To be honest; I never really bought the argument anyway. From a legal standpoint I don’t give half a shit. From a layman’s standpoint it’s bullshit. Nowhere do they use terms like “rent” or “lease”. They explicitly use terms like “buy” and it’s not until the fine print that the term license even comes up.

      They know they’re pissing on you and telling you it’s raining and the goobers doing their legwork by repeating the sentence like they just came up with it annoy me to no end.

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        Nowhere do they use terms like “rent” or “lease”. They explicitly use terms like “buy” and it’s not until the fine print that the term license even comes up.

        This! It really should be illegal to present something with the phrasing “buy” unless it is provided to you via a license that prevent it from being withdrawn. To “sell” cloud hosted media without having the licensing paperwork in place for it to be a sale is fraud.

      • @obelisk@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, I understand that hearing the same simple explanation of “you don’t own it…” gets to be annoying. Especially in places like this where most people are pretty well aware of the situation.

        The primary issue seems to be that enough people support this type of service willingly for the sake of convenience and are generally ignorant to the potential long-term issues. It feels pretty exploitative as a consumer.

        But I don’t see how making the distinction between ownership of the content vs the license is providing legwork for those services. In my mind, that distinction is key for understanding that the service is not for me. And I may just be looking at this too optimistically, but I would hope the same would be true for users who don’t read the fine print, or happen to have not understood the issue until something like this post is presented.

      • Kayn
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        If people are aware, why do they keep buying movies they won’t own?

    • @uis@lemmy.world
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      This sounds worse than communism. At least communism said “everyone will own everything”.

      • @Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml
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        Not the collective ownership of everything, just the collective ownership (and eventual abolition) of private property, which differs from personal property in that they are assets which are used for the purpose of capital accumulation (e.g factories, real estate, farms, supermarkets, etc.)

    • @seaQueue@lemmy.world
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      We’ve been screaming about it for 20+ years now and no one seems to be listening.

      I’m hoping that someone will tie digital ownership rights to a block chain sooner or later and offer me movies, music, games and books that I can actually own resale rights to - but as publishers are already drinking from the rent-seeking model teat where every single license is a new sale I’m not terribly optimistic about that particular future.

      • @SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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        block chain

        No. Never. Stop asking. Crypto is not a currency and blockchain is a solution in search of a problem.

      • @__dev@lemmy.world
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        Adding blockchain into the mix changes nothing. Whether your digital ownership is stored in their centralized database or a distributed database, they still have control over everything because they’re the ones streaming it to you. They can just as well block your access & block resale.

        The only way to actually digitally own something is to have a full DRM-free copy of it (ianal though this still might not be enough to allow resale).

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          Adding blockchain into the mix changes nothing. Whether your digital ownership is stored in their centralized database or a distributed database, they still have control over everything because they’re the ones streaming it to you. They can just as well block your access & block resale.

          So you push digital goods to a robust public platform like IPFS and tie decryption to a signed, non-revokable, rights token that you own on a block chain. It’s a transparent and consumer friendly model compared to what we accept now. I know people are over block chain hype but this type of publishing model is where it’s actually useful.

          Transferable digital rights tokens and chain of custody are places where block chain tech actually works.

          Edit: People seem really hung up on crypto as currency which I’m not asking for at all. I’m asking for control, ownership and resale rights to digital goods I’ve paid for which isn’t possible at all on current digital publishing platforms. I appreciate that people hate crypto shit, that’s fine, but at least read the content you’re replying to.

          • @sfgifz@lemmy.world
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            Fuck no. I ain’t paying a transaction fee each time I want to take a breath. If you don’t want to be robbed by streaming companies, blockchain is the last (or maybe not even a) thing you should consider as a solution.

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            This doesn’t make any sense, who distributes/gives out rights tokens? And if they lose publishing rights, why would the new owner of the publishing rights care about the rights tokens they didn’t sell?

            Blockchain doesn’t fix anything new here, there’s no point in decentralizing the rights ownership, verifying ourselves as owners of the right to watch the media was never the issue here.

            Getting companies to be willing to give out non revokable rights tokens is the issue, and no company wants to do that because it’s not profitable for them. It’s not a technological issue that blockchain is going to solve

          • @__dev@lemmy.world
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            So you push digital goods to a robust public platform like IPFS and tie decryption to a signed, non-revokable, rights token that you own on a block chain.

            What you describe is fundamentally impossible. In order to decrypt something you need a decryption key. Put that on the blockchain and anyone can decrypt it.

            Even if you can, pirates would only need to buy a single decryption key and suddenly your movie might as well be freely available to download. Pirates never pay hosting fees because it’s using the same infrastructure as customers and they can’t be taken down because they’re indistinguishable from customers.

          • @sir_reginald@lemmy.world
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            it’s quite fun to see the whole thing you want to engineer just to have an excuse to use a blockchain.

            Have you ever heard of Torrents? USENET? eDonkey? Those things are more resilient than your blockchain, they’ve proved themselves by being around more than 20 years and still in use.

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        Keep it in your hard drive and carry it with you, this was not a hard problem 20 years ago, but we’re being conditioned to regression in expectations and functionality. Better than yet another blockchain overkill and works offline.

        PS: just like the creeptobros say: “not in your disk, not your file.” or something like that.

    • @FMT99@lemmy.world
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      I think it makes sense in some areas. For example private ownership of cars is completely unsustainable in the literal sense of the word.

      But when it comes to digital goods, clearly it’s all for the profit of the media cartels. There’s no justification.

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          Agreed that majority transport should be shared&public but smaller personalized transport will still be needed (eg a doctor being called to an emergency)

          I could also see a system of self driving cars (not trucks but very small city cars) as a kind of public uber. Kind of like how gondolas work in some mountain cities. And of course just one per let’s say 10 or more people as opposed to 1 or more cars per family like we have now.

  • LazaroFilm
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    You don’t own the video file. You own access to their video file, which they also don’t own, they only own the right to distribute it. If their distribution contract ends and doesn’t gets renewed, then they can’t let you access the file. At least they refunded you. This system is one of the issues with the ongoing writers and actors strikes. Amazon can decide to stop making a video available, which cuts all dividends revenues to actors and writers. So having a video available for you to watch costs money to Amazon (or Netflix or Max…) but not enough content makes users unsubscribe, so they ride that thin line for maximized revenue. This means that older movies that aren’t blockbusters get dropped in favor of new content. Now new content doesn’t means good content, remember, it needs to be as cheap as possible. Aaand this is why steaming companies are spiraling down and everything is going to shit. Filmmaking is an art form turned into an industry. But art isn’t about maximized profit, it’s about art first. But you can’t make that art without millions of dollars and that requires the art to take a step back to maximize profit, but not too far back. It’s a really big issue in the film and entertainment industry.

    — I’m an IATSE local 600 camera operator.

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    We’ve taken away this thing you’ve bought, here’s a gift card so you can give us that money back again later.

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      strictly speaking it’s

      here’s a gift card so you can give us that money back again we can keep your money but give you something for free later.

    • @Arethusa@lemmy.world
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      Gift cards and store credit = “we keep your money.”

      The reality is that they didn’t give the customer back anything. It’s the usual corporate sales speak.

      “50% off” and “Save $10” aren’t actually real either. $10 doesn’t appear in customer’s bank accounts after a purchase and customers often have no concept of what the item originally cost before it was marked up and brought to market by the the corporation. It’s sales and marketing psychological games that many people can’t see through. $9.99/$59.99 is cheaper than $10.00/$60.00 true and people somehow feel better buying the former versus the latter as though that penny isn’t only a penny and they didn’t give the corporation the 99.99% of the money they wanted.

      • @Malfeasant@lemm.ee
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        Explain this to my wife please… “I saved so much money today!” Plunks down several bags of crap that will end up being thrown away eventually…

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          I didn’t understand this for a long time myself. And I can’t rightly remember when I first learned about this sort of thing. But once I did, information just seemed to flow to me from multiple directions. Maybe look up classic tactics around sales and marketing, then deceptive, yet typical, psychological sales and marketing practices. There’s a book on credit cards I enjoyed years ago “How to Take Advantage of the People Who Are Trying to Take Advantage of You: 50 Ways to Capitalize on the System” by JSB Morse (Though long story short, avoid debt and credit cards). One video on YouTube turned me off of buying ink cartridges once I found out what they truly cost versus the exorbitant amount they sell them for. Capital rip offs.

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      It’s more like: we took it away and gave you a ~100% ROI by adding a $5 gift card to your “refund”. Still sucks though.

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    Sometimes I think I made the right decision to just get a huge harddrive and download all my favorite entertainment in drm free format. Movies, music, games, books. I saw this coming a mile away a decade ago. The only thing that will really hurt me is if/when Steam inevitably goes full corporate cucks and starts going hard on the DRM locking down my library.

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    When brain-computer interface finally became reality, right holders and streaming companies will require you to hook in and let them wipe the memory of you watching the movie whenever they cancel your “purchase” like this.

  • @uis@lemmy.world
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    Gift card. GIFT CARD! Those bastards “refund” with gift card instead of actual money! I hope EU will haunt their asses. Big corpro hunting season is open.

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    Mofos

    Return me ALL my money for that, fuck your girftcard coupon shit! That is the least you can do and still doesn’t change the fact that I can’t buy to own anything there, so why the fuck would I?

    Jellyfin and torrents for the win!

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    Every day on the internet, a lucky 10,000 get to learn “common knowledge” for the very first time.

    Like everyone said 50 times, yar har be pirate, all that.

    Or, buy hard copy, which is refusing to completely die because of this shit, right here.

    BUT, you have to make sure the data is on the hard copy and that you can access the data (play the songs, watch the movie, etc) WITHOUT internet access, that is you have to make sure the hard copy of the media is really on the damn disc, and it’s not just a glorified access key to media that will then be streamed from their servers they control. If it is then do not pay for it.

    This is honestly why vinyl is still a thing, once you rip things back out of the digital realm it gets a lot harder for them to pull bullshit, they pretty much have to put the songs on the wax if they want your $40, and they do, oh boy they do they want that money bad.

    Piracy is always a bigger pain in the ass than internet techies act like. No, I don’t want to buy a Plex server and learn how to use it and learn how to make my own VPN and make sure the VPN doesn’t just report my activity to 7 Eyes or whatever that things called and and and and, and results like “my movie got unbought” are also unacceptable.

    Yes, we know, there are “special” websites that you can just surf to and it’s like a janky Netflix that “just works” so long as you already know the name of the thing you intend to watch, otherwise it’s just a blank search bar. Also, you cannot tell other people about the website or the website gets taken down. Nothing is more useful than a website that you absolutely can’t tell people about, wow, what a problem solver that is.

    “I want to watch a movie” is a very “This activity must offer zero friction, I will only accept push button get movie” kind of activity so, yeah. “Be pirate” is not that useful, it’s just the internet’s go-to answer, they always speak loudly for the tiny minority in this place.

    What we’re actually doing is drastically limiting our spending on any of this type of thing, and never, ever pay money to “own” something digital. That era is over. It sucks, but it’s yet another shitty thing that would take bullets to change, and since it’s not worth bullets it’s not changing.

    Honestly I doesn’t even take bullets but if you’re going to build the kind of political movement it would take to create change then all that work would be absolutely wasted on this problem while everyone eyerolls at you like you’re stupid and worthless for caring so yeah, it’s not changing.

    So yeah, do not pay for digital ownership of any kind, ever. It’s only ever a lease with one-sided terms, at best. Amazon lost the contractual right to provide that movie, so you lost the right to watch it, and “buying” it meant buying a license to watch it on their terms, the end. Don’t pay for it.

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    Wow. This is why owning DVDs is better. And if you can’t buy, download via torrents. Imagine these bastards rolling up to your home and reclaiming a movie you physically purchased. We gave them too much power. Time to withdraw it. Convenience is not worth this shit. Get uncomfortable and get your entertainment away from these streamers who don’t give customers what they paid for.

    DVD rental stores could surely make a comeback given these new developments. Libraries still loan movies as well. Remember, Barnes & Noble didn’t run all independent bookstores out of business. And after Amazon savaged Barnes & Noble, Amazon Books suddenly came into existence (2015 - 2022). Greed driven corporations aren’t the answer.