Reading about how swing states are important for the election, I was wondering how safe the “safe states” actually are. So I plugged some numbers into a spreadsheet, and came to some interesting (?) results.
So first, the data. I used the 2020 election results, starting with Turnout_2020G_v1.2.csv (from https://election.lab.ufl.edu/voter-turnout/2020-general-election-turnout/) for number of people eligible to vote (columns D and E). Added the results from https://www.fec.gov/documents/4228/federalelections2020.xlsx (H, I, J, and K calculated from that), and the number of registered voters from https://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_affiliations_of_registered_voters#2021 (F and G). Non-voters L is eligible voters minus total votes (E - L). Democrats M and Republicans N is the bigger of registered and voters (F or H; G or I), to see if that makes a difference in swinginess. Columns P and Q are the results calculated from the table to make sure it works (Maine and Nebraska cancel each other out), row 54 is the sum of the column above.
The results: Columns R are the states where non-voters alone are the biggest group, S adds third party voters to that, resulting in 148 or 156 electors that could vote for anyone. Columns T and U are each of Democrats and Republicans plus non-voters, and here the non-voters could help each party win everywhere, except DC which is safe for Democrats. For funsies I added the last column V that calculates non-voters from the voting-age, not voting-eligible population, resulting in 287 electors for anyone.
Conclusion? Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and West Virginia could be “rainbow states” that could send electors for any candidate. The rest except for DC could vote for either Democrats or Republicans, making all of them swing states. And maybe the fear of non-citizen voters (which I think is the majority of the difference between voting-age and voting-eligible people) determining the election results is valid. Or maybe that means that a significant amount of people living in the US and thus being affected by its government are not represented by said government.
The End: Of course that completely disregards non-voter demographics, even if they would vote they’re not likely to all vote the same. Still, enough motivated ex-non-voters could turn basically any state into a swing state. One vote of someone who thinks their vote doesn’t matter won’t change much, but the votes of all who think that way certainly can.
This is your friendly reminder that there are more reasons than, “I didn’t feel like it,” for not voting.
We have GOT to stop acting like the non voting population in America country is a monolith, and admit that the problem might be more complex than “lazy, ignorant people.”
So? What are those reasons?
- “I don’t like either option”: pick the lesser evil or vote third party
- “But Harris won’t stop the genocide in Palestine”: neither will Trump.
- “My vote wouldn’t change anything”: it would. See OP.
- “I can’t vote because I have to work”: vote by mail. Demand that elections are held on a Sunday or national holiday like in most other western democracies. (As an aside, I wonder why conservatives haven’t pushed for this yet. Voting on a Sunday and setting up polling stations next to churches would probably help them a lot)
- “I can’t vote because I can’t physically get to a polling station (disabled, sick, too far)”: vote by mail
- “I can’t vote because my state’s ruling party won’t let me”: you should be furious about this and do anything in your power to change this.
Did I forget any? Probably. Enough to change the election outcome in the majority of states? Most certainly not.
Yes, the US have some fucked up rules that make voting hard for some people and for that exact reason urgently need a voting system reform. Make voting easier and make changes that break the two party system.
Honestly, here in Germany we’re infamous for still using fax machines for half our bureaucracy and even we manage to do it better than you. Here, elections are always on a Sunday when the vast majority of voters has the day off. Every elegible citizen gets a letter a couple of weeks before the election, informing them of their assigned polling station, based on their primary home address. If for any reason you can’t be at your assigned polling station on election day (you work on Sundays, are on vacation, whatever), requesting a mail-in ballot is as easy as going to a website and entering your address and a PIN from the letter. Alternatively you can request one by mail. If for any reason you don’t get that initial letter, figure out which polling station is the correct one for you (usually the closest one; ask your neighbors), show up on election day and show some government-issued ID. Done.
You realize that voting process is organized by individual states and hence is completely different depending on where you live, right? Some states are quite good about it and some are not.
In a lot of red states these days, the reason is “the election officials and Secretary of State (for the state in question) have made it extremely difficult - and in some cases impossible - for me to vote”.
I’m not saying the points you’re raising are irrelevant, but honestly, just look at Texas. It SHOULD be purple/swing, the legislature there has enacted swaths of anti-democratic (small “d”) measures with the expressly partisan intent of making it effectively impossible for any party other than the GOP to win anything meaningful in the state.
I live in Texas and completely disagree with your point there. Sure things have been gerrymandered to hell, but they’ve done so based on voting trends and not registered voters. We could easily flip even the most gerrymandered districts if people got out. Also don’t forget that the Governor and the President are decided by results that don’t care about Gerrymandered districts.
Texas also allows early voting, and all you need is your drivers license. Will it get 100% of people: no, but enough to make a difference. It feels like you’re falling into the same trap as the OP response here, that unless it’s 100% perfect it won’t make a difference.
That’s not true in TX cities. I’ve lived in DFW, Houston metroplex, and Austin and have never had less than 15 polling places. They might not be next door to your work, but they are within a few monute drive.
TX was also the first state to allow early voting and mandates that polls are open at least 9 hours the first week and at least 12 hours the second week and final day of voting. That’s the minimum, not maximum. There were also polling places open on the weekends.
That said, I have heard (although haven’t researched it) that some very rural areas are more difficult to vote in with only a couple polling places in the county. So that could be the case if you live in the middle of nowhere, but you’ll pass polling places on your way to/from work. Just think of it like you would a doctor appointment and put it on your schedule.
TX is pretty purple and is turning more blue each cycle.
2004: Kerry lost by ~1.9 million votes 2008: Obama lost by ~990,000 votes 2012: Obama lost by ~1.2 million votes 2016: Clinton lost by ~800,000 votes 2020: Biden lost by ~640,000 votes
In 2020, had just 3.5% more of the registered voters cast a ballot for Biden, he would have won. That’s about how many people voted each day of early voting in this election.
In some states, you can’t vote by mail except under specific circumstances, such as being a senior citizen or swearing that you’ll be out of state entirely on election day.
The process is intimidating and confusing to a lot of people. Most states require you to pick a party when you register and many people don’t want to pick a party not realizing they can vote however they want to later. They don’t know who the candidates are or who supports what issue. Not everyone is politically engaged.
Sounds like something the political parties should be offering education in. “Come to our shindig, have some free bbq, and learn how to vote using current voting machines and mail in ballots! All ages welcome!”
Political parties like to put people into buckets and of you’re from a certain area or demographic, then they don’t want you to vote or they already assume they have your vote or that more votes don’t matter.
Just because you can find reasons doesn’t make them good ones. It’s a civic duty.
I voted, but devils advocate here.
These are the big issues in my mind: Health care Housing Cost of living/ worker rights Climate change War in Gaza Infrastructure improvement
At absolute best maybe infrastructure and cost of living get addressed in a minor way.
The sad truth is that no candidate will fix these things. Even if they weren’t such complex issues, big $$$$ will make sure 2/3s of these things remain the way they are.
Since I’ve been alive (born in 90s) I have only seen the decline of every system around me regardless of what polical party is in.
So yes I voted, yes I hope the people I voted for get in, yes they will reduce how quickly things are going downhill, but I do not expect them to even address most of those topics in a meaningful way.
It makes it difficult to give enough of a shit to vote in the first place. Even if my candidates win, the issues I care about the most will almost certainly not be fixed.
I recognize this is a very pessimistic view and I crave to be proven wrong but the last 20+ years I’ve lived would lead me to believe I will be correct.
See my first bullet point:
“I don’t like either option”: pick the lesser evil or vote third party
I recognize this and my reply in my comment is:
The sad truth is that no candidate will fix these things.
It’s hard to get people motivated when they recognize that even their top pick will still not resolve any issues. I’m not saying you shouldn’t vote because of that, I’m just saying I can empathize with that sentiment.
the problem might be more complex than “lazy, ignorant people.”
Yes, some of them are stupid and belligerent in their stupidity.
I have had extremely good reasons why I was unable to vote since I’ve turned 18.
However, I finally registered to vote a few months ago, specifically to vote in this election.
I’m extremely nervous and don’t really know what to expect once I’m in my polling place, but I’ll be damned if I don’t do my part to prevent my country from becoming a fascist dictatorship with a man willing to throw its citizens into the grinder if it meant he gets a dollar out of it. Fuck that.
I’m extremely nervous and don’t really know what to expect once I’m in my polling place
Understandable to be nervous, but you’ll be fine! There’s always a lot of signage of where to go, and the people will walk you through what you need to do. The process is intentionally accessible to people who are probably much less capable than you are.
Yep, don’t be afraid to ask for help. The people at polling places are usually very nice and helpful!
I’ll bite. What were your extremely good reasons not to vote?
It’s not a particularly fun story to tell or to hear.
I’ll keep the mood light and just say I’m just happy that I am able to vote now.
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Congratulations on registering to vote!
If you haven’t already, you should look up a sample ballot for your specific state/city so you can know who all these people are and/or what the actual proposals. I was a bit overwhelmed by all the non presidential questions the first time I voted. So now I research before and take my little paper list in with me so I don’t have to think/decide in that moment while at the poll.
Congrats! You just need to show up. There will be volunteers guiding you along the way so no need to be nervous (i know easier said than done!). Just plan for worst case scenario of having to wait a few hours in line so bring water, weather-appropriate clothes, and something to keep you entertained while you wait (book/ phone/etc). Bring your id and check to make sure you don’t need anything else in your state.
Best of luck!
Edit: and not everywhere is bad with lines. Some places are in and out
Based on historical voting trends, increasing the number of voters favors Dems.
So it shouldn’t be surprising that Republicans are the party of voter suppression.
I live in a pretty red state and someone I go to school with told me they didn’t register because they didn’t think their vote would matter. Like bro it sure as hell don’t matter now!
Had another guy tell me he lived out of state and didnt want to worry about the hassle. My brother in Christ you can register to vote in the state you go to college in. There’s signs all over campus telling you this.
Registering to vote is EZ too, as someone who bounced between states after uni.
It’s absurd that USians allow themselves to not vote, in a democracy voting is a duty, not just a right.
There are certainly some people that willingly choose not to vote, but there are also a lot of people that can’t. Either because of inability to get to a polling station, employer that won’t give them time off (or threatens punishment), or they live in a state that is actively attacking their voting rights and/or making it extremely difficult to vote.
It’s important to remember that one of the parties in the US two-party system is effectively a fascist party and they hold power in many states. It is often not as simple as “just go vote”.
But it is that simple. There are plenty of ways to vote, the only reason not to is because you don’t care.
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Contrary to our stereotype, the vast majority of Americans don’t resort to gun violence or the threat of gun violence to get what they want.
The gravy seals you see on TV are just cos playing and would turn tail and run if they ever really had to put it all on the line. Or even if the local police simply didn’t enable them.
Headline be like: “Unnafiliated voters might vote for anybody!”
it’s not a battle of ideology, the left have won that battle a long time ago. it’s now just a battle of participation.
What country do you think we’re talking about? Half the US thinks they need to genocide brown people abroad to not be victims of Genocide and the other half thinks they need to genocide brown people abroad and at home to not be victims of genocide
half of all american people believe this? who told you that?
Current polling in the US election, along with comments from neoliberals
you should take another look at the questions being asked. when asked about genocide specifically, more americans would want to act to prevent genocide. you don’t need to fall for the misinformation designed to polarize
Sure, and police really don’t ever want to kill unarmed nonviolent civilians but it keeps happening so…
If you vote for Harris for any reason relating to trump, you think genocide is the price to pay to avoid that. If you vote for Harris for any other reason, genocide isn’t a problem for you. Ditto for Trump voters.
If I say I hate literally shitting on humans but actively choose either a random child or my child to shit on, clearly it’s either not that big of a deal to me, or I actively want it.
There is always more than two options in all things, and if two of your options are genocide, as a human being you have a duty to pick any other option.
i really highly doubt minnesota would ever be red. not even when reagen (was it him?) won every single state. except minnesota
While that’s true, it was mostly just because Mondale was from Minnesota, and even then he only won by 0.18%.
I bring this up the time how Reagan didn’t win in a landslide, Mondale fuckin lost in a land slide.
Even the worst NFL team will destroy the next best team they could face that was worse than them. Mondale was your local junior college team going up against the Jets. A 50-1 score is spun as the Jets winning in a land slide and not spun as how shitty the junior college was.
And unicorns might fly out of my derriere.
Until people stop voting for capitalists, you’re always going to have 100,000,000 people or more who don’t vote. Voting does not materially affect their lives in any meaningful way, but missing a day of work does.
