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TheTechnician27@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 6 个月前

Europe’s Greens ask Jill Stein to pull out of US election to prevent Trump victory

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Europe’s Greens ask Jill Stein to pull out of US election to prevent Trump victory

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TheTechnician27@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 6 个月前
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“The race for the White House is too close for comfort,” write parties from around Europe, calling on Stein to throw her support behind Democrat Kamala Harris.
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    You mean Russian Asset Jill Stein?

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      I was talking about intentional spoiler candidate for Trump whom Republicans are scrambling to get on as many ballots as possible Jill Stein, but maybe we’re talking about the same person here.

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        Po-traitor, Po-traito

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          Boil ‘em, mash ‘em, stick ‘em in a stew

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      The very same

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      Russia controls ¾ of US candidates. Awesome.

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        A nation that sent his troops on an invasion without boots and helmets controls ¾ of the candidates of the most powerful and advanced nation in the world that spend 10 times as much money in war and propaganda than everyone else, that has thousand military facilities around the globe, that has the biggest mass surveillance network ever seen in history with satellites capable of snooping at every inch of the planet at any given time.

        That’s what you are saying.

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          Yeah that’s what I am saying. Trump is definitely compromised, for example. And he’s not the only one, look at the Hungarian PM. They would sell their ass if Putin asked so.

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            https://saganic.blogspot.com/2007/06/us-military-bases-in-italy-there-are.html

            This is how many military facilities usa has in italy alone. More than 100. As an italian it seem laughable to me to believe that the former ceo of usa is controlled by russia.

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              Allora sei il primo italiano MAGA che io abbia mai visto. Comunque non ci sono 100 basi US, le stai mischiando con le basi NATO

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                You are more MAGA than me, you are defending the US government who’s former ceo is trump.

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      I see these comments a lot and I’d like to learn more. Do you have any articles on this?

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        Well, start here at a dinner she attended in Moscow in late 2015:

        Years later, after Trump was elected, she claimed it was just perfunctory, with no real interaction with Putin. She also claims she received no payment for being there, although we know Flynn received 45k from Putin for his attendance.

        Then there is this from 2016 about Russian efforts to divert Clinton voters to stein. She also received intense press coverage by RT, Russians propaganda TV station, that was not banned in the US at the time.

        Here she is refusing to call Putin a war criminal, a stance she suddenly recanted days later.

        Here is evidence she is currently working with the GOP.

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          Thank you for the well cited reply! Scary.

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          According to the lesser evil logic receiving money from putin is still less evil than being a fascist or being supporting a genocide.

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            Coordinating directly with Putin, the oligarch dictator of Russia, who is currently engaged in a genocide in Ukraine, to elect Trump, a US presidential candidate that has told Israel it “needs to finish the job,” a person whose son in law has said gaza is “excellent beach front property,” and who hid the number of drone strikes and their casualties caused during his admin, is the lesser evil?

            I’d call the above stupid, not its far to disingenuous to be an actual real perspective.

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              Like it or not that still lesser evil than being a fascist who said israel “needs to finish the job” or being actively fueling a genocide by sending israel fascist government “whatever it needs”.

              Lesser evil logic, you vote for the lesser evil.

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                This is nonsense.

                FPTP voting means there are 2 viable options only. If you don’t vote for the “lesser evil,” you are voting for the “greater evil.”

                Choosing to not make a choice is still a choice. Voting for “not Harris” is the exact same thing as voting for “yes Trump” in our system.

                You’re voting for the greater evil by voting for Jill Stein, which is exactly what her and her partners Putin and Trump want.

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                  Yes the lesser evil logic is non sense.

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                    Don’t think of it as evil then.

                    Either the Democratic or Republican candidate is going to get elected, full stop. You can choose to help or hurt the person who is closest to your views.

                    If you choose to help Trump, you are assisting:

                    Internment camps:

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-does-not-rule-out-building-detention-camps-mass-deportations-2024-04-30/

                    Political prisoners:

                    https://www.npr.org/2024/10/21/nx-s1-5134924/trump-election-2024-kamala-harris-elizabeth-cheney-threat-civil-liberties

                    Invading Mexico:

                    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/

                    Accelerating the genocide in Gaza:

                    https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html

                    Abandoning our allies:

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republicans-blast-trump-over-threat-abandon-nato-allies-2024-02-12/

                    And turning Ukraine over to Putin:

                    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ukraine-putin-zelenskyy-0f4d539aa73a943474d779716e5fe42a

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