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I’m reopening this topic for the time being, after cleaning up de xenophobic/bigot comment. Please stay civil, remember to criticise ideas, and not people.
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China has spent decades building up their reputation of a place that produces cheap, inferior copies of better products and they aren’t going to shake that overnight or even in a few years.
Are they even trying to change that reputation? The last I heard was that if you published a game app that was any sort of popular, you could expect it to be stolen and resold in China.
I also generally find it hard to trust any software produced in any totalitarian state.
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Did that sound cooler in your head? “Chauvinism if you settlers”.
If they want respect it’s going to have to be through quality Sony or Nintendo type single player titles that don’t have a gacha model that gets critical acclaim. Their own Breath of the Wild or Last of Us type game that holds up critically as opposed to being a game where “gacha mechanics can be ignored” in a best case scanerio.
But, most of the games that are well known games embody the perfect spirit of capitalism meant to try and squeeze as much money out of its users over years. Mobile gamers may give it a pass with how they don’t bat an eye to how predatory mobile games are, but the gamers that the writer is asking respect from are less likely to give those practices a pass.
Shout out to Dyson Sphere Program, technically impressive and gorgeous automation game with a nice sci-fi plot.
Racists really coming out of the woodworks for this one.
They always do. They’ll claim it’s not racist though and then the next breath say something about Winnie the Pooh.
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Ignoring the second part of Blamemeta’s comment, the first part is correct: Chinese in the context of this article isn’t a race, it’s a nationality.
Very insightful, do tell me more.
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unironically active on c/conservative
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Just crackers being crackers; don’t even waste your breath on them.
I think you’ve accidentally switched from your lemmygrad account to your for-conversations-with-normal-people alt.
But what about ism?
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On a console, for an offline game, sure.
I don’t trust my details aren’t being sent to the CCP any other way.
Are you fine with it being sent to corporations? Because news flash, they sell your data to way more than just the CCP.
I mean, Genshin Impact is an outlier in games out of China. A lot of the games, even the big budget ones, from developers there are freemium or gacha trash (and Genshin only minorly avoids that by having a decent story and gameplay).
The first step would be to produce proper single player games that aren’t reliant on a paid store model. There are some examples of that, but they’re incredibly rare.
Isn’t Genshin Impact also a gacha game?
As I said, it only minorly avoids the fate of other gacha games by actually having effort put into its story and gameplay.
Wow! Maybe this was naive, but I wasn’t expecting this to get so much controversy and downvotes. I’ll post a few thoughts here FWIW.
- I see a lot of comments in here that remind me a lot of this New Yorker cover. As with any other country, there’s lots of different types of people in China with lots of differing opinions, but some comments in here feel like they’re casting all of China as a monolith. I should probably know better than to expect nuance on the internet, but the amount of opinions in here that were expressed as if they were total undeniable truth was still kind of annoying.
- Following up on that, the main point of the article was requesting that people not conflate the CCP w/ companies and players. No one who was born in China chose to be born there. But they still have to live their lives, find creative expression, etc. I also hate the CCP, but I was surprised to see so an article that was trying to distinguish between the CCP and ordinary Chinese people receive so many comments that just brought up the CCP.
- All that said, while I definitely disagree with many comments in here, I personally didn’t feel like I saw comments in here that were racist, despite what some people suggested.
- For me, this article made me interested in finding out what cool games might be getting made in China that aren’t being released to the West. I also found it disappointing that the article explicitly called out that lots of the cool stuff isn’t making it to the West, and yet so many comments here talked about how China hasn’t made any good games, with no acknowledgement of whether the commenter has tried anything other than a small handful of the ones that actually got translations and came over here.
Anyway, that’s it. Thanks for reading and hope you have a good day.
If they want my time and patronage, they can learn how my community’s melanin distributes across our bodies. They can learn how to render coarse hair. They can broaden their character demographics beyond ‘what kyles are comfortable with’. Otherwise, they can fuck right off. And I haven’t seen many Eastern in general devs willing to even so much as try. Mihoyo and Square-Enix are both kinda on my shitlist right now.
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And there it is.
I am not a fan of the CCP or Winnie the pooh. They are committing genocide… call me what you want, I have no issue with the Chinese people only the ones on charge of the government. Bit keep simping for the authoritarian murders to virtue signal.
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Ok CCP simp. Go suck of Winnie the Pooh elsewhere. #FreeTibet
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Ok bro, keep sucking off Winnie the Pooh
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You’re right now on a server whose back-end is developed mainly by two commies, and whose admins are also commies (lemmy.ml).
Allow the fascists to out themselves so that the reasonable among us can block them.
No one said Lemmy was perfect, it has its flaws. But I firmly believe this will sort itself out with forks.
I have huge respect for the makers of Genshin Impact. The story is simply amazing and makes you want to pay attention to every little detail during your quests (especially the main ones). The Gacha aspect can be ignored as you definitely do not need to pay to have a really good team.
I got some respect. They made a casino for horny teenage boys, slapped a coat of paint on it, and its somehow legal.
Pulling off a game of pretty vast scope, supporting several very different host platforms, on a multi-year development timeline, and having it thrive in a hypercompetitive market is still an impressive technical achievement.
If all they wanted was to deliver “casino for horny teenage boys”, they could have done far less and still achieved that goal.
You’re responding to someone frequenting !conservative and who obviously is projecting as he, like the vast majority of conservatives, always sweep under the rug things like Christian family members and priests molesting children and at the same time claim to be against the “grooming” of children. He’s talking about “horny teenage boys” because that’s exactly how he sees kids and also himself.
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