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Funny but it has to be illegal right?
Its also coming after elon started tweeting that he would pay people $47 for registering swing state voters in support of trump.
it is not and this is where we are at.
They have a pretty fun FAQ on the campaign site explaining the legality of it.
Ok that was both funny and depressing in equal measures.
paying for apology, making a plan of voting, and a tweet?
They’re paying you to swallow your pride, make a tweet, and a plan to vote. They’re not paying you to vote.
Isn’t that like buying votes?
No more so that Elon
Nope. They aren’t telling you you must vote for Harris. There is no call to action to vote.
Can they target the electoral college since they’re the ones that overturned the popular vote in the first place???
I know this is a response to musk’s bullshit, but this makes it sound like trump won the popular vote in 2016. He did not.
Not a great game, legendary company!
Neither.
Is Kamala that unpopular that you have to pay people to vote. This is Hilary all over again. And yes I know it’s response to Musk but this wouldn’t have been necessary with Obama.
It’s necessary because of all the money the other side has pumped in to getting morons to vote for a moron.
If we want that to stop, I think using the same tactics while pointing out how it shouldn’t even be allowed is a pretty good strategy.
Read through their statement https://www.apologize.lol/
They don’t need to stop. What they should do is adopt progressive policies that will excite the base. Number #1 would be stopping all arms sales to Israel.
The 2 party system forces politicians to do 1 of 2 things:
- Lie to and manipulate uneducated voters into thinking they’re the best option.
- Only enact middle of the road policies everyone likes to get voters in the middle to swing the vote in their favor.
Our two party system is too entrenched to ever pass laws to remove itself, thus this will always be how politics works in the US. We should all be focused on some form of multiple choice voting like ranked choice if we ever want something different than the above, but I see no reality where the dems and gop come together and dilute their own power by making this a reality.
Oh this again.
K the Israel thing isn’t going to happen. It’s fucked up, I know.
Anyway, that’s not what we were talking about. We were talking about money influencing politics. That’s what needs to stop.
SAY ISRAEL ONE MO TIME MF.samueljackson
I love how we’ve managed to come full circle. In the early 1900s buying votes was open and totally normalized.
Obviously it’s fucked that Musk started this, and while it’s pretty rad to see CAH surpass his dumb ass, this isn’t going to be the end of it. This is just the genie getting loose.
There’s a fun bit on the official website where they tell you how to get Musk to pay them $47.
cards should be working as dem strategists
https://petition.theamericapac.org/
For those curious.
What’s the legal reasoning behind it?
I think it’s because Musk is offering money to people who get other people to sign up and pledge to vote Trump.
It doesn’t say anything about voting voting Trump, just blindly saying you support the 1st and 2nd amendment. Like I will gladly and openly say I completely agree with that, but there’s not the slightest chance in hell I’m voting for Trump.
Cards Against Humanity however is very carefully threading the needle around committing election fraud. They’re paying you to make a plan to vote, but not based on whether or not you actually follow that plan and vote. The latter is very explicitly turnout buying, what CAH is doing is possibly just far enough away to be legal. I’d be shocked if no one uses them over it though as close as it is.
I’m not a lawyer so I have no idea. I was just providing the link from the image.
If only I lived in a swing state. Then my vote could have meaning and I could get paid for it.
Must be great to live in one of the seven states that’s allowed to decide our election thanks to the electoral college.
Yeah, swing states are where it’s at. From Nate Silver’s forecast, the states most likely to tip the election (as of today, Oct 9).
I live in the Philly suburbs and it’s disturbing how many Trump signs I see in my area. I really really fucking hope he doesn’t win this state.
it’s up to you guys stop stop your neighbors from voting (as well as cast your own ballots). i would use any tool in the bag. this could be the end of the world if he wins. i don’t feel like that’s an exaggeration.
Yes, so you vote this year, get others to vote, and then spend the next 4 years working to overturn the electoral college and get ranked choice voting implemented. If you truly care, that’s where you’ll direct that passion.
Stay focused.
State and local elections still matter outside of the electoral college!
I’m aware. I already participate in those.
Doesn’t change the fact that my vote regarding the highest office in the country is a pointless effort.
I mean, you can vote and still get paid; I don’t live in a swing state but I got a whopping $0.17 for my efforts! It’s moreso about getting a voting plan together.
I can’t buy the card pack from Canada 😡 I wanna help
I live in texas. Send me a venmo link. Ill buy the cards through their portal, ship them to you, and match your contribution to elevatedaccess.org to provide funding to individuals in need of abortion transportation and gender affirming care. I already fly for them. This is the least i can do. Lets go.
Thank you for being a good human being!
No easy way to send money over the border. No venmo, and our ‘interac Etransfer’ doesn’t work for American banks :/
I got a buddy in California who’s gonna buy it and ship it to me
I did not know that. Til.
The offer still stands, through alternative means apparently.
PayPal isn’t great but it’s a relatively easy way to send money and very common.
There’s also Wise, and various other smaller apps.
How great is etransfer, though? Venmo seems like total trash from what I’ve seen of it.
It’s offered as a free service through our major banks.
No fees for transfers up to 5k (I think?). Nearly instant transfers. Pretty hassle free
Yeah, i love it and use it often. I may not have expressed that rhetorical thought well!
Canadians don’t have Venmo either 🙃
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Legend
The website
Lmao
Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?
Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “MuskIsDumb@cah.lol” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.
If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.
The whole FAQ is pretty amazing. My favorites:
How do you know who didn’t vote?
We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.
The data you have on me is wrong! I didn’t vote in 2020 and it says I did, or it says I’m red-leaning when I’m definitely blue, or whatever. I demand you fix this.
Consider the teachings of Buddhism: “The seed of suffering in you may be strong, but don’t wait until you have no more suffering before allowing yourself to be happy.”
Now, calm your mind and meditate on the knowledge that Cards Against Humanity does not have time for this shit
ahahaha!!
Bad news possibly: are the MAGA schemers gonna send people to the Cards Against Humanity site and then ask for a $50 donation to even things out?
That was actually addressed it seems! (In the FAQs at the bottom of the site)
Beautiful.
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Now that’s how you build a proper mobile website!
Also
I used to love your card games before you got all political.
Your mom used to love you before you got so fucking stupid.
LMFAO, I should steal that and use it against those transphobic turds on Xitter complaining about Godot
I didn’t know lol was a valid ICANN Top Level Domain
lol
They can’t find my info after I put in my last 3 addresses 😭
Then double check that you are registered to vote!!!
This is some bullshit, I can’t even lend a hand
American politics forces itself on me and I can’t even vote in their elections, that’s fucking bullshit. No spamming without representation!
as a British pervert, I’m guessing you must be the Canadian?
British pervert
Don’t worry if anyone sees you…
All the lights are on, but the blinds are down.
So for the first time we don’t get lumped in with the yanks, we get lumped in with the Brits instead???
We just can’t win.
Canada is the comma of nations. Technically it’s supposed to be there, but no one notices if it’s missing.
Canada’s influence is so weak they couldn’t even convince the world their bacon is actually bacon.
Canada’s claim to fame is being slightly more interesting than North Dakota.
Canada’s national anthem sounds like an apology letter set to music.
Canada’s idea of influence is having 90% of their population living within 100 miles of the US border and constantly asking “hey what are you guys up to, eh?”
Edit: (Love you, Canada!)
Canada only exists today because it is America’s hat and the founding fathers drew a line way farther south than the British originally thought they would. You can actually find the map used by the British which showed just how much territory they were willing to give to America after the revolutionary war, it’s wild to think about.
You can actually find the map used by the British which showed just how much territory they were willing to give to America after the revolutionary war,
This piqued my curiosity. It took some digging but I found what you’re referring to - any other curious readers can search their favourite engine for the following:
“Oswalt red line map treaty of Paris”
There aren’t many sources and none are particularly high quality, but it’s certainly interesting.
I’ve enjoyed every time I’ve ever been to Canada except for one time when a young truck driver and his friend at a bar took offense to me calling him an asshole for being rude to the bartender, tried to beat me up in the bar, got kicked out, and then over an hour later when me and gf called a cab and left, he and his friend popped up from behind a snowbank across the street and sprinted at us.
We got into the cab before they got there, the driver was confused, we told him to lock the doors and go, and then the dudes got there and started beating on the windows screaming for us to get out. Then the driver got it and peeled off.
Alcohol: it’s not for everyone. But I almost have to admire the dedication to wait outside behind a snowbank for over an hour in the middle of winter just to try to beat someone up for saying “don’t be such an asshole.” Turns out not all Canadians are nice!
Up to their sole discretion they decide to give you between $0.01-$100, via paypal only if you allow them to collect your info and pass that info to “necessary parties”.
This is well and fine for anyone who doesnt really care about that and im sure they have better interests in line with you moreso than other companies, but figured I’d post their Terms and Conditions for those that it might affect.
I dont use paypal as its literally one of the worst ways to manage money in the US. So I’m not doing this unfortunately even though i AM voting and didn’t vote in 2020.
Expand on why PayPal is especially, specificallyworse than other mainstream payment processing options?
This is not a reason for me to not participate.
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Thanks for posting this, and thanks for voting!
Absolutely. 2020 made me wildly apathetic towards humanity. I’ve decided to move onto optimistic nihilism instead lol.
I’ll play the shit out of a violin while the titanic sinks just for the laughs.
Hey, welcome to team optimistic nihilism, haha. Nothing matters but at least it’ll be a fun trip down!
Federal law prohibits anyone from knowingly or willfully paying or offering to pay or accepting payment for registering to vote or voting (42 USC § 1973i©). It applies to primaries and elections that have candidates on the ballot for the office of president, vice president, presidential elector, or member of Congress, whether or not the violation alleges payment related to a candidate for one of those particular offices. It includes criminal penalties for violations. - https://www.cga.ct.gov/2001/rpt/2001-R-0132.htm
It sucks when Elon does this shit just as much as when someone does it for your team, guys.
They’re not paying you to vote, they’re paying for you to apologize. I’m sure they have sufficient legal backing.
The CAH folks have pretty good lawyers. Judging purely on the fact that they formed a Super PAC, they likely have good legal cover.
I found this pretty interesting:
How do you know who didn’t vote? We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.
And later on:
How do you know who’s “blue leaning”? We got your partisan lean from the same data broker who sold us your voting history. You wouldn’t believe how easy it was for us to get this stuff. So fucked up!
If they are basing this on which primary you vote in, it’s going to be terrible since people like me who live in a swing state vote in the Republican primary since that’s a more effective use of my vote than the Democratic primary.
I question the accuracy of their political lean assessment. I’m blazingly progressive and it has me down as “purple”. Bitch, I’m a socialist.
I dont doubt that they have good lawyers but the law doesn’t just have penalties for the people paying out, it also has penalties for accepting it. Even if they were offering free legal services to people who participate it still wouldn’t be worth it.
They couldn’t find me at all :(
Hm, the tweet says they need to make a voting plan, not that they need to show that they’ve officially registered or voted. Loophole?
Try giving that loophole explanation to a Trump appointed judge and see how far that gets you. Do not risk federal charges for this stupid shit.
Trump appointed judges should just be ignored then.
Try giving that loophole explanation to any reasonable and professional judge and see how far that gets you.
Flip the sides and I would be surprised if a Trump appointed judge didnt accept some kind of bullshit loophole like this.
I love CAH as much as the next degen but this feels iffy at best. But also they presumable ran this passed at least one lawyer who said ‘fuck it lets ball’ so maybe there is a leg to stand on here.
I really do not think its worth gambling with federal charges over (up to*)$100, but if you’re willing to risk it by all means, submit to their public shaming for a pittance, or implicate yourself by contributing. I just want people to know what they’re getting into.
My guy, I’m agreeing with your point. This probably wouldn’t hold up as legal in court, but also IANAL.
apologies, I misread. i’m maybe a little more annoyed about this than I realized.
Gosh I really like the phrase “Donald trump is a human toilet”. I’m gonna use it
I hear that Donald Trump the human toilet likes to have golden showers from underage girls.
JD Vance told me so
Must’ve been in between his casting sessions.
Damn I could have made 147$ this election if I was in a swing state lmao
Now that you mention it, anyone still using Twitter could just go right now and tweet Donald Trump is a human toilet for free. And they could right now. Go do it.
Great way for me to learn Ohio is considered a lost cause I guess? Not sure if i disagree (or care), for that matter; I want out.
Always has been.
Every trump election we’re assumed for him. I had hope in 16, but and maybe this year, but I think it’ll take issue 1 to drive us there
I’m pretty sure they’re using the money from Elmo using a plot of their land they bought to stall the border wall
It’s just a shame we don’t have an option this election for a president against a border wall…
They said they were sharing the Elmo money with those who originally helped them buy that plot.
