Shoigu added that Russia could achieve its military goals with “consistent implementation of the measures in the action until 2025.”
Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin and allies like Shoigu have repeatedly stressed the need to keep Ukraine inside Russia’s sphere of influence, and to defeat what they describe as Ukraine’s “Nazi regime”.
Russia can end the war within 2 days, even now.
They could just… fucking leave and never come back.But then they reveal themselves to be weak and straight up idiots. Theres no going back until Russian people get their shit together and get the hold of their country but decades of brainwashing and indifference is preventing any meaningful change. It’s a lost country.
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They have revealed that already
Is it brainwashing and indifference, though? Could also be fear of a hostile government. Russia isn’t exactly known for its fair treatment of protesters, dissidents, and activists.
I just came back from SEA and it’s full or Russians either running away from war or pretending everything’s fine. Russian culture is just so extremely toxic that people have completely lost any sort responsibility or sense of understanding. It’s all either somebody else’s fault or “nothing you can change” sort of mentality. It’s not just a few bad apples.
And then NATO will disband. I am very smart.
I was told by some mouth foaming Putin fan on the other site that when the tanks were running out of fuel and breaking down on the road in the early days that it was all part of the plan. Yup, all part of the plan. Sigh. Turns out it wasn’t and here we are.
At some point, we have to take the toys away from the children. No more war.
At some point, we have to take the toys away from the children. No more war.
agreed, stop giving the children (ukraine) toys (“game-changing” western equipment that doesn’t change the outcome of the conflict)
lemmygrad again what a surprise…
(“game-changing” western equipment that doesn’t change the outcome of the conflict)
You’re actually right, they won’t change the outcome.
It’ll just make the Ukrainian victory quicker than it would have been without the equipment.
Repeating fantasies over and over doesn’t make them materialize, Ukraine can’t win a war of attrition against Russia.
Repeating fantasies over and over doesn’t make them materialize
And yet you keep repeating the fantasy of letting Russia win
And yet you keep repeating the fantasy of letting Russia win
It’s not “letting”, there are no other choices other than to accept that Ukraine can’t win or spiral down into further delusion.
They actually only have to hold on until Trump gets back in.
Man Americans really like to make themselves important like that lol
Sure hope they all grabbed a Snickers bar.
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even if they had, they had no means of holding it.
If they had enough it’s possible that other nations would have not bothered fighting to take it back. That’s more or less how they took Crimea in the first place, they were fortifying a position before most countries could react.
If Russia keeps this invasion up for another few years, they’ll run out of soldiers. Are they expecting to put women, children, and farm animals on the front line when that happens?
Are people ignoring that Russia is substantially more populated than Ukraine? Ukraine isn’t winning a war of attrition.
But Russians don’t want to fight. They want to win, just don’t want to fight. Those are different. Ukrainians want to take their homes back or defend their families.
Lots of Ukrainians could leave if they wanted. There are Ukrainian refugees in lots of countries, so the path out is paved. I know I would already have left. The Ukrainians left in the country are not going to leave for anything besides nukes.
If Russia keeps this invasion up for another few years, they’ll run out of soldiers.
Both countries can probably sustain these high losses if they are only willing to keep committed. If we look at WW numbers.
Just a rough calculation: If Ukraine was to send 5% of their population to the front lines, they could lose 200k each year, for more than nine years. Russia obviously more.
From what I see based on the numbers, Russia only has around 1.3 million troops (including reserves, and paramilitary, who already showed disloyalty to Putin). Ukraine has around a half million.
But Russian losses have been disproportionately greater, so they could run out of fighters sooner, if things keep up the way they’ve been. But considering that Ukraine is now getting more advanced weapons and support, Russia could lose more soldiers and high-value targets faster than before.
When you factor in that Russian soldiers have almost no motivation to fight, while Ukrainians have every reason to defend their home, things don’t look good for Russia.
What can tip the balance is whether other countries decide to support Russia, then the world would be in trouble.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In fact, CIA Director Bill Burns told lawmakers weeks after the start of the invasion that Putin’s strategy was centered on “seizing Kyiv within the first two days of the campaign.”
Shoigu added that Russia could achieve its military goals with “consistent implementation of the measures in the action until 2025.”
But, 18 months into the conflict, Russia only occupies parts of eastern and southern Ukraine, as well as the Crimean Peninsula, which it annexed in 2014.
Ukrainian troops are also pushing back hard against Russian forces, focusing their efforts on breaking through Russia’s heavily fortified defensive lines across occupied territory in southern and eastern Ukraine.
Russian forces are coming under intense pressure from Ukrainian attacks in the southern Ukrainian Zaporizhzhia Oblast, with the Institute for the Study of War, among others, saying in recent commentary that Russian forces are stretched thin and that elite units are sustaining high casualties during counterattacks.
On Tuesday, the ISW said that Russian defenses appeared to lack strength in depth on a key part of the front line where Ukraine has made recent gains.
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