I would rather fair wages, but this works too, I guess.

  • @Technus@lemmy.zip
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    My rule is that I only tip for table service, where it’s already factored into the servers’ wages.

    I refuse to enable even more companies to shirk the responsibility of paying their employees a fair wage.

    • Instigate
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      It’s really sad to me that Americans get put in the awful position of choosing between tipping, which supports the low wages, and taking responsibility for ensuring another human being has a living wage. It’s just such a terrible position for a consumer to be placed in, having to make ethical and moral choices about how much money to pay for goods and services.

      • This. At the end if every transaction its “Surprise! You must now evaluate and pass judgment on the monetary value of this individual.”

        I’d prefer more expensive menu items.

      • @brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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        American who really dislikes tipping here.

        In reality? IDK, all sit down restaurants have these menus that are missing “MANDATORY 20% TIP NOT INCLUDED!!!” under every single item. I read it when I sit down - well, I don’t, it’s not written there. But I know. I know before I sit down. I know before I enter, before I drive to the restaurant, before I decide what I want to eat and where.

        There’s no decision. I sit down, I get fully served, I tip 20%.

        If I were to receive terrible service, based on redditor urging I suppose I’d tip 20% and talk to the manager on my way out (or email them, esp. if with friends). “Tips get pooled, don’t punish others!!” The unwritten addendum doesn’t say “MANDATORY UNLESS BAD SERVICE!”

        All restaurants, 20%, always, all the time. No thought. Just tip. I move the decimal and double the amount and math it up in less than two seconds. Second nature.

        Again, tipping sucks! But… what choice? I make the choice to either agitate for change (write my representatives) or stay quiet. I don’t choose whether to tip. It’s mandatory. We LiVe in A sOciETy!! 😀

        See your point though and I like how you phrased it and that you’re thinking about it. Booooo tipping for whichever reason we have for it! (Gotta say I want UBI or something b/c it’s nice you can make bank @ a high-end restaurant w/o a college degree, and I love that feature of the overall bug. Would still apply if “tipped minimum wage” were abolished.)

        • @Mr_Blott@feddit.uk
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          Amazing that over the course of a decade or so, they’ve slowly brainwashed you into believing the tip should be 20 rather than 10 percent, AND put their prices up at the same time so it’s 20% of more

          • @BallsandBayonets
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            It’s less brainwashing, and more that minimum wage hasn’t gone up in that time, but cost of living has skyrocketed.

        • @Nurgus@lemmy.world
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          We don’t generally tip much in the UK. Staff in high end restaurants still “make bank” from tips, as wealthy people are still more likely to tip.

        • Pika
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          yeaaaa 20% ain’t happening for me, 10% for bare service, less for shit service, 15 for normal. the chances of me doing 20% outside of insanely amazing service is super slim unless the full cost is low.

          was raised an appropriate tip was 15 for standard, anything more is a kindness. It’s not reasonable to have that expectation on people. at that rate just raise the menu prices and have the wages go up.

          thankfully I haven’t seen anywhere where a 20% tip is required (outside of a massive group but that makes sense in my mind, it’s a lot of work doing 8+ people)

          I’ve seen some places now having recommended tip rates at 28%, like when does it stop? I disagree with tipping culture, and a “tip” for a single person’s meal shouldn’t be over triple the hourly salary in the first place.

        • @beeple@slrpnk.net
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          Same, and it meant for my peeps that we don’t go out to eat as much. It’s having the same effect as those that don’t tip having that thought imo

  • I'm back on my BS 🤪
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    1223 days ago

    lol, what a funny joke! omg, haha! wow, so funny! however, my friend doesn’t get it, and I’m having trouble explaining it to them (because I’m laughing 😂). can someone help us out pls?

  • Ark-5
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    I’ve hit a point where I’ll ask staff for their Venmo and pay them directly if I really feel compelled to support them for quality service. Particularly at a lot of bars or clubs I do this. I don’t really drink much, so I’ll often go whole nights just getting waters from a bartender and then ask them for their Venmo so I can still tip them for all the free water. I’m also generally willing to tip well at local small businesses where half the time I know the people working there.