Wild isn’t it

Edit:

Ok I misread the data but I am leaving this post. I compared Linux desktop share to Firefox all platform share

  • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51•3 months ago

    Statcounter does not say that. This post is straight up misinformation.

    • Firefox (all platforms): 2.74%

    • Linux (all platforms): 1.61%

    • Firefox (desktop): 6.64%

    • Linux (desktop): 4.45%

    Firefox has 50-70% more users than Linux.

    • Morphit
      17•3 months ago

      Is OP adding the Android share to Linux? That would certainly do it.

      • Android (all platforms): 45.19%

      Only makes sense if you know their definition of ‘Linux’ though.

      • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12•3 months ago

        True, that could be it.

        Although then the “Wild isn’t it” statement really isn’t wild at all - Android is by far and away the most popular OS, not far off double Windows. Of course if you lump that in with Linux, Linux would be more popular than Firefox.

    • Rikudou_SageA
      1•3 months ago

      What? Linux on server should definitely be higher.

      • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1•3 months ago

        I don’t believe anybody mentioned Linux on servers.

        I only mentioned “all platforms” (that statcounter checks anyway), and desktop.

        • Rikudou_SageAEnglish
          1•3 months ago

          I assumed “all platforms” would include a server.

      • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15•3 months ago

        You’re comparing apples and oranges…

        • Firefox (all platforms): 2.74%

        • Linux (all platforms): 1.61%

        • Firefox (desktop): 6.64%

        • Linux (desktop): 4.45%

        You’ve chosen to compare Firefox’s share from all platforms to Linux’s share only on desktop. I don’t know whether this was deliberate misinformation-pushing, or an innocent brainfart/inability to parse data, but that’s not how data is compared.

        Firefox has 50-70% more users than Linux, depending on the platform you use for comparison.

        No matter how you cut it, Firefox is more popular. It’s more popular across all platforms as a whole, and it’s also more popular on desktop.

        And 4.45% of a far smaller number is not greater than 2.74% of a much much larger number.

  • kenkenken
    34•3 months ago

    Right now statcounter shows:

    Firefox: 2.74% Linux: 1.61%

  • RBG
    28•3 months ago

    Browsers are mostly identified by user-agent, or not? If so it isn’t surprising because people like to fake that. In the least to shut down such silly messages like “please use chrome/edge”

    • The Octonaut
      39•3 months ago

      The number of people that do this is not going to even remotely shift the usage share percentage.

    • @leopold@lemmy.kde.social
      11•3 months ago

      OS is also identified by user agent, so it’s no less vulnerable to fake agents. In any case, I’d wager the vast majority of users even on Linux use unaltered agents, though this isn’t something that can be backed up one way or another because there are no numbers for fake agents.

  • Shadow
    13•3 months ago

    I’d believe it. I’ve had hundreds of Linux servers that don’t have any desktop Gui at all deployed on them.

    Linux desktop users make up an absolutely tiny fraction of Linux installs.

    • Morphit
      1•3 months ago

      I don’t think that’s what ‘market share’ is trying to represent, but without any context - yeah. You can lump in android phones and set-top boxes and signage and industrial controllers while you’re at it.

      • Rikudou_SageA
        1•3 months ago

        Nah, when you include Android, you’re doing it wrong, they only use the kernel.

        • Morphit
          1•3 months ago

          Linux is the kernel.

          You can define terms however you like and treating Android as Linux is a choice - though I would agree - not a good one. It depends what point you’re trying to make. I can’t tell what point the OP is trying to make. By most reasonable definitions, there are more people browsing the web with Firefox than browsing with Linux so the title is wrong.

          Ah - and I see the OP has edited to say they just misread the stats. So there was no point.

          • Rikudou_SageA
            1•3 months ago

            I mean, maybe I’m gonna sound like that weird copypasta, but when people say Linux they mean GNU/Linux and stuff inspired by it, like Alpine. On desktop also X11 or Wayland and the usual set of tools.

            Android is neither of that, so no, when you say Android is Linux, you’re wrong, because you’re ignoring what people mean by saying something is Linux.

            If you truly want to mention Linux with Android, you can say that Android uses a Linux kernel (heavily modified, one might add).

  • Fonzie!
    7•3 months ago

    In which country? For me the global stats and my country’s (NL) stats show otherwise.

    • @TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4•3 months ago

      From a very quick glance at Statcounter, I can only see India where OP’s statement is true, with Linux having an extremely high desktop market share there relative to other markets.

  • @j4k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5•3 months ago

    I never trust stat counters of any kind with linux. I often see stuff like that plastered on my whitelist firewall, like bumper insects on a high speed summer drive through Florida. There is usually some other stat of leet users. That’s Linux too. Then there are those times when I change my browser agent just for fun.

  • data1701d (He/Him)English
    4•3 months ago

    On a random note, I once talked about Firefox with a friend, and he texted me a few weeks later about trying it. More successful than my Linux spreading, although part of it was he used a Surface and having gone through the pain on my Surface Go myself, I wasn’t sure I could impart that suffering to someone else.

    • @letbelight@lemmy.ml
      1•3 months ago

      Firefox is suffering if one use M365 online daily…

      Only Google workspace great on Firefox ootb…

    • kenkenken
      8•3 months ago

      But the majority of distros provides it as a default choice. FF for Linux is like Edge for Windows.

      • @NoiseColor@startrek.website
        -11•3 months ago

        So just to install chrome?

        Edit: I got down voted for saying people use edge for downloading Chrome. A lot of edge lovers here, who would have known?

        • Chewy
          1•3 months ago

          A lot of edge lovers here

          I guess many here don’t particularly like Chrome, just like they don’t like Edge.

          I.e. using a browser that spies on you to download another browser that spies on you doesn’t seem like a great deal to me.

          Both being based on Chromium there isn’t even any performance difference between them. Insert “they are the same picture”-meme.

          • @NoiseColor@startrek.website
            1•3 months ago

            It was a joke…

            Geez. Linux community is extremely uptight and extremely triggered by any challenge, even whimsical. Relax guys. But seriously, Firefox kind of sucks.

            • Chewy
              1•3 months ago

              I got the first part about Chrome as a joke, but after I read the edit I wasn’t sure anymore.

              But seriously, Firefox kind of sucks.

              Why do you think that? I’m happy with Firefox. It let’s me customize the tabs bar through userConfig.css to exclusively use tree style tabs and supports uBlock. That’s all I really need from a browser, but, sadly, all other browser only support basic vertical tabs.

      • Engywuck
        1•3 months ago

        Or they just have differente priorities and preferences, you know. THe same reason they use Linux instead of $SOMEOTHEROS.