I actually like Linux, but I’m considering just blocking all the Linux communities because it’s so incredibly boring to just see you guys circle jerking all day long. We get it. We all get it.
My guy, you are on linuxmemes lmao
I came here hoping to see gnome and X11 memes. You know, actual Linux memes.
Instead I found “Windows bad” circlejerking.
Ubuntu bad?
Distros and package managers are bad. Reject modernity, embrace compiled source. Burn Lennart Pottering at the stake!
Go gentoo and get both!
Gentoo and Arch is for wanabees, the hardcore use Linux From Scratch as their distro.
These are the memes I come for
You need a book to tell you how to install Linux? I guess we were all a noob at one point.
I don’t think the bank will accept “I need to install Firefox” as the reason for a loan to pay my electricity bill.
Joking aside though, Gentoo was a great experience for me to learn how Linux actually works.
I never got it running, but I definitely learned some things. I need to try it again someday when I have a lot of free time and a spare laptop.
Can’t forget to bash snaps too!
Systemd also bad!
No, I’m on All, but a far higher percentage than most other content is just the same message in slightly different words on repeat, “Linux good, Binbows bad.”
But have you heard the latest hilarious thing? Windows… BAD! Hahaha! My goodness, I’m sure you never could have imagined. Also, I use Arch, in case you were wondering.
Binbows isn’t that bad, it’s Michaelsoft as a company we should worry about.
I like you.
No, I’m on All
Hi on All, i’m the post of tom joad
There’s like 6 of em hah
Why do so many memes seem to be about windows then? 🤔
It’s kind of hard to tell since the Linux memes are in all the other communities as well.
Well that’s because Lemmy needs more users
They’re not gonna get any if we keep making all communities about hating Microsoft Windows and capitalism.
They could use some memes making fun of our community instead of making fun of the rest.
Let’s be honest, Linux isn’t a viable option for a big portion of society. I love working in Linux but it’s not perfect for those that aren’t techsavy and need more than a browser.
Linux Mint is absolutely usable by most of the population. What it isn’t good at is business sector stuff because that entire sector is captured by Microsoft and its proprietary ecosystem. If interoperability was the focus, it wouldn’t be an issue. But capturing the population is the goal, so companies get these anti-user designs that lock you into their ecosystems. Maybe you need centralized development to achieve stuff like Azure and all its capabilities.
LibreOffice can take care of the business stuff. Or, Hell, just Google Docs.
I mean just go ahead and block it, why make this rant at all, if you are seeing it on All its because of the amount of Linux users on Lemmy.
You’re talking to the deity of jokes himself. You think he’s out of touch? No, it is linuxmemes who are wrong
I mean, I’ve got a 75% upvote ratio right now, so perhaps I’m not alone in thinking it’s a bit excessive?
And whats the point? Should all Linux memes communities close so that you don’t see them in All? Should people stop making Linux memes at all? What are you achieving with your rant? You don’t like it. We get it. You and that 75% can block the community and move on.
I did. Go outside and breath for a bit, the weather is nice today.
Ah yes, this is literally the first time I visit Lemmy today after uni and the first post I see on All and that I interact with in more than a week but I am the one that has to go outside, not the person that apparently spends all day on Lemmy, so much so that is tired of seeing Linux memes on its feed. Have a nice day as well, and I truly mean it.
I don’t know your life story, I only know you got pretty riled up over nothing at all on the Internet, by a strangers comment. Usually a good sign you need to take a break and relax.
Bro stop the virtue signalling, you got triggered by memes.
I mean, I’ve got a 75% upvote ratio right now, so perhaps I’m not alone in thinking it’s a bit excessive?
My guy, you got ratio’d by the guy pointing out you were on c/linuxmemes.
Since you are the main character of Lemmy, which Stallman meme shall we post for the millionth time? Perhaps we shall post about how it’s stupid in 2023 to be using a macrokerenel architecture and that Linux is obsolete?
you’re absolutely not. i daily drive linux and find all these memes cringy too (came here from “all” too if anyone’s wondering)
Linux is the best OS for posting memes about Linux, cmv
Is TempleOS a joke to you?
Is it not?
No networking
We’re on linuxmemes.
Then why are there so many Windows memes? :^)
I’m browsing all.
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So like, you browse All, find communities minding their own business making little in-jokes, and pop in to say “hey assholes, I don’t appreciate you talking about all this stuff you like talking about! How about you shut up so I don’t have to skip past your posts when I’m deliberately skimming everything!”
Seems fair.
Yep, that’s what I said, verbatim.
i’m using tilt controls!
Shut the blast doors!
Block it then. Don’t waste your attention on posts that don’t bring you joy.
Nobody asked, nobody cares, just do it.
Feel free to block any communities you please, I personally block them even if they’re fine because they fill up local/all feeds with content I do not understand/care about
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Why we don’t have any server side memes yet, probably there is some non-windows meme material there.
“So regarding these security vulnerabilities… We see that RHEL 5 is no longer supported, so what is your plan to get support…” So basically you’re telling me you walked into a giant ravine without ever realising it for almost a decade and now you ask me if you could get some support to assemble your now tiny fragments back into working order?
+1
Calm down MacOS hasn’t done shit to make it better. They decide what you do and don’t get, daddy apple already made the decision and you have to deal with it.
“We did the thinking for you, and you’ll like it.” Might as well be their slogan.
When I got a macbook from work I was honestly choked at how awful things were.
Even the simplest of tasks required googling. It was so very unintuitive.
I mean, I had to do some weird dragging to install an application!?
Even to this day, I totally avoid using it.
I mean, I had to do some weird dragging to install an application!?
Ah yes, the notoriously unintuitive feature known as… drag and drop.
Err, why couldn’t they do the double click like everything else?
Double click and then do a drag and drop, totally intuitive.
That’s… exactly what you do. macOS software is usually distributed in DMG files (compressed disk images). You download the DMG, open it (with a double click in Finder), then drag and drop the APP file to your Applications folder (or wherever else you want it to be).
Speaking of APP files, the structure of macOS apps is vastly superior to that of Windows, imo. Linux generally has them both beat, but there’s some additional complexity there.
I have to agree with the other person actually. The drag and drop thing is kind of weird. They ought to just automate it.
Other than that I think Mac is fairly easy to use, and more customizable than people realize.
I do wish they had better window management though. GNOME and Windows both make window snapping so much easier than Mac. And the support for third party hardware on Mac is pretty bad.
The drag and drop thing is because it’s an app file. “Installation” is just putting the file in your application folder, or wherever you want it. Apps are (usually) just files, unlike on windows, so you don’t need to go through a complicated installation process, just put them where you want them (usually the applications folder).
The window snapping thing is annoying (but it’s not apple’s fault, Microsoft has a patent on it lol). There’s a bunch of free apps that add window snapping though 🤷♀️
An aside, You can make KDE feel like that, but youd know every hairbrain behavor because you did it yourself.
People who have ever only used one operating system, and tried to apply everything how they use that exactly to a different one are awful. Yeah, different OSs are different, that’s the point of it. That you don’t do everything exactly how you are used on it, doesn’t make the OS bad, you just need some time to get accustomed to some things being different.
The people here are the most biased possible.
Mac still locks up with frozen applications. I hate it
Yeah, MacOS has way more bugs than Windows 10. It’s kind of hard to believe that it has been this bad for the past several years. They keep pushing features, but they need a 1-2 year pause on features to fix the existing features they have.
I agree and it’s very weird to say that. The appeal of Mac when I was a kid was that it didn’t have issues and I got blue screens on windows XP very often.
Now it seems the opposite. I’ve had my Mac entirely lock up because an application froze twice this month, but the last blue screen I had in windows was because I over clocked my RAM. I don’t think I’ve had an issue other than that since Windows 7 released.
I’ve had the exact opposite experience. Have never had an app freeze my Mac but my windows computer freezes up at least once a week. Using both for work so similar loads but I guess it’s possible some of my work software is dodgy on the windows. Still probably shouldn’t lock up like that so frequently.
I must be lucky with windows then.
It’s kind of ridiculous that either one can lock up due to a bad application though. Feels like lately it’s been almost as bad as the XP and beach ball of death days.
I guess it’s just really hard to make an operating system. My work Mac also isn’t completely devoid of its own issues. Sometimes moving the mouse can be a bit laggy which is frustrating because I also have a personal Mac that’s not laggy, so again probably the work software.
Absolutely agree it’s ridiculous that modern hardware still sometimes chugs when it’s thousands of times more powerful than what we had back in the day.
Honestly if they bought Apple products they clearly signed up to let Apple do the thinking for them.
Yep. Same as Windows.
Windows is far more customizable by comparison. Still nothing next to Linux but trying to put them on the same field at least in an enterprise environment is ludicrous.
7 downvotes but I don’t get where you’re wrong. Maybe the fact that Windows 11 requires TPM and some other security features? But the rest of the OS pretty much went down in terms of quality.
It doesn’t strictly require TPM in the sense that you can make a modded install disk that does away with the TPM check altogether. People are able to install windows on all sorts of devices now.
Microsoft may have pushed hard on wanting you to have TPM, but it’s more because they didn’t want to deal with the plethora of bugs that come about as a result of inferior hardware.
Windows is still my OS of choice as any misgivings like ads etc can be disabled with a few steps . Is it annoying? Sure, but unlike Macs, I’m able to do something about it when I find something annoying instead of hoping the next OS update deals with it.
Not a real requirement, it’s a fake requirement they ask for on Install, windows runs without it just fine.
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When I started using MacOS, I was prepared for annoying design decisions that I would eventually get used to. I was not prepared for inconsistencies, bugs, and a significant loss of features and functionality. MacOS is a terrible operating system.
Still doesn’t support resolution scaling, no window snapping, beach ball of death happens easily, can’t disable the obnoxious caps lock timer (which is awful for writing SQL).
Mac is only good for development because the terminal is Unix based and the M1 has amazing battery life. Otherwise I hate it.
I developed in a linux enviorment on a chromebook before, its okay, even in developer mode, i still felt restricted in what I could do. (Remeber, ARM isnt x86, make shure you get things compiled for ARM if possablez) If id be less crashy, it may be better. Youd have to be affixed to a google account tho.
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As someone who switches between Windows, Mac, and Linux (KDE), the every-day bugs with Mac OS are far more annoying to me than the bugs in the other two.
In my experience when I find a bug in Windows or Linux, it’s normally quite a significant bug, but it’s an edge case that you only run into occasionally (e.g. WSL used to lock up completely on Windows 11 when hibernating).
When I find a bug on MacOS, it’s normally something minor, but in something I do all the time, so it ends up being more frustrating (e.g. the lock ups and stuttering every few seconds when Ventura was quite new, oh boy that was annoying).
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I wish it was pinwheels, sadly it was just complete lockups, as in, not even the mouse would move. It got worse and was most noticeable when an external monitor was attached.
iOS doesn’t let me choose which map app an address opens in. And I can’t select text in iMessage so I can’t copy and paste the address unless the person was smart enough to send it as a separate message.
There are two examples of why this is bad. I can think of plenty more with just my daily use of iOS.
Long Press -> Copy Address.
Oh my god THANK YOU!! I’ve been so annoyed by this 🙏
It’s 2023 and Apple is a trillion dollar company, and they still don’t have window snapping/tiling in OSX. I don’t have anything positive to say about their OS lol.
Damn tell that to literally every single Linux WM lol
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That’s, for example, how VLC can use patented codecs. France doesn’t allow for software patents, meaning that as VLC is produced it France, they can use all the codecs they want…
jibe*
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Patents, copyright and trademark do nothing but make rich people richer and stifle innovation.
They encourage creation. Trademarks are different. In order to do so properly, they should be far more limited.
Right now the forever copyright means no one can remix sixty year old stories
Right now patents are issued for trivial IT “inventions” which stifle competing products.
Trademarks are fine. They are intended to protect you from misleading products. They let Apple sue people that sell stuff which might mislead you into thinking it’s an apple product.
Of course trademarks are also abused, for example Apple uses trademarks to prevent recycling iPhone parts. That couple be fixed.
Right now the forever copyright means no one can remix sixty year old stories
You can’t even reprint 60-year-old stories.
Lemme get this straight. Microsoft successfully got a patent for a feature that KDE had before Windows did?
Bro they don’t even have touchscreen support
They’ve had it for a while
I was missing the KDE style drag/resize windows with modifier keys, then I found https://penc.app that kinda fills that void
it also does snapping and auto 50% with trackpad gesture
The first thing I do with a new Mac is install Better Touch Tool UI. It’s mandatory software for Mac as far as I’m concerned.
I feel like the full screen tiling on mac makes up for this. Having used both windows and Mac a lot I think I slightly prefer Mac’s way of splitting full screen windows but I see the appeal of both
I had to use MacOS for 2 years after using Windows for 20. The copious amounts of energy suddenly releasing when thousands of dying stars start to explode in unison can’t compare to the deep, burning hate I feel for MacOS.
But I know there are people who like or love it. No problem with that. It’s just a personal feeling.
You do you, but I just hate MacOS way of tilling. When I’m tilling windows I’m generally multi-tasking and I need my dock to look at a third window from time to time. Having it in full screen renders this impossible and the animation for switching is sooooooooo slooooooow😅
I’m not even sure full screen tiling can be called tiling at all.
I mean, I’m never gonna tile my kitchen floor with one GIANT tile.
Technically that’s still tiling, but it completely misses the point lol
Lol you tile your desktop as much as your kitchen floor? I only tend to need to have three things up at most so Mac optimizes my screen space the best since I have 2 monitors, but I’m not on on the multitasking level of many people here it seems
*I think mac os started supporting tiling of non full screen windows as well according to some other comments so maybe kitchen style would work now
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I wasn’t referencing tiling managers. I’m referring to simply dragging a window to the left/right side of the screen and snapping it to 50% of the screen. It’s actually painful to not have that feature. That’s extremely common. I’m not implying it needs to be an i3 clone.
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Sounds like they should probably improve their terrible UX. People say they have good UX somehow?
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I see zero reason why dragging a window to an edge shouldn’t 50% resize it and snap to another window border. Not sure whatever you’re referring to with Apple implementation either, it’s just a floating window UI that will benefit from this. Virtual desktops also have nothing to do with the resizing of windows. Also don’t really understand the unrelated rant against Gnome not having minimize.
Nothing wrong with that, IMO those features suck and always annoy me when I encounter them by accident. By god I’m going to manually position every fucking window that I use. That keeps them where they should be.
Don’t get me started on encountering a ‘feature’ by accident, I’m looking at you hot corners 🤮
Everything wrong with that lol, also that’s just weird. If I want to have two windows side by side, I’m going to want to drag them to simply the edges of the left/right of the screen.
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MOAR TITLE BARS
Hey MacOS, you know these days most people are using wide or ultra wide screen monitors and have more space at th–
😡MOAR 😡TITLE 😡BARS 😡
The title bar is so annoying with a vertical monitor. Oh you’re using the bottom window? All your application menus are literally a foot away.
I want NeXTSTEP-style menus back. Much better for big screens than title bars.
GUI? Yes.
UNIX command line? Six of one half dozen of the other versus Linux in my experience.
But yeah. I love i3wm and it’s a real bummer that you can’t do something like that with macos. I use yabai, which is nice, but i3 it ain’t.
Yes easier to use, it’s already there
jk
Meanwhile yesterday I fucked up my linux installation trying to find alternatives on how to be use the wheel click without having things pasted with it :/
I’ll be trying again when I am not lazy to reinstall it again.
Click “Activities” in the upper right and search for “tweaks”, click the “Tweaks” icon. Select “Keyboard & Mouse” and turn “Middle Click Paste” to “off”.
For Gnome ^ but I’m at work and can’t confirm.
As far as I remember I tried that but it didn’t seem to work and some xdotool script that disabled the wheel click entirely. Then I installed kde, tried a few more things there, and then I tried to go back to gnome but… …
Damn, someone who actually gives GUI instructions and doesn’t yell at the person? Keep it up. The Linux community needs people like you.
I recently tried out Fedora and it deleted my Windows boot files so I had to fuck with the computer for hours trying to troubleshoot… not to mention that almost all Linux tools can’t create a proper bootable USB Windows recovery drive :/ Never had this problem with OpenSUSE (I had the best Linux experience with that one for sure) or Ubuntu, they behaved properly with dual-boot install. I guess Fedora never again. And what’s with that name anyway? It’s dumb. Fedoras are a meme for a reason.
Just make a Ventoy USB. Why people still bother flashing disk images to thumb drives is beyond me.
Ventoy is awesome, +1
It’s still needed for some things. I tried to install a Universal Blue based distro with Ventoy and kept getting errors, once I flashed a drive it installed perfectly normally. It’s definitely an edge case though.
And what’s with that name anyway? It’s dumb. Fedoras are a meme for a reason.
I guess that’s because it was a community continuation of red hat linux (not the enterprise one)
And what’s with that name anyway? It’s dumb. Fedoras are a meme for a reason.
Fedora Linux was thing before fedoras became the meme we know. Also, I would imagine some of the original Fedora Linux guys really did wear fedoras.
how to be use the wheel click without having things pasted with it
This is the #1 feature I miss wherever I’m forced to use a non-Linux system.
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I fucked up my Linux installation yesterday by doing apt upgrade.
Same! dnf upgrade tho for me.
Really? What happened exactly? Hang on. Are you using an Nvidia card? The Nvidia drivers can be finicky sometimes, especially if you have CUDA installed.
I’m pretty sure it was caused by some nvidia driver. It just cut the upgrade process halfway through and in turn damaged nearly everything. Not exactly sure what happened. Either way, my system got so broken I figured it’s easiest to just wipe everything and start from scratch.
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I would’ve done it if it was me who created the installation. Did it for the reinstall.
Next time try NixOS or use BTRFS snapshots.
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Windows: Clean boot no bullshit software, nothing running: 4GB RAM allocated.
Is that all processes or is that kernal reserved RAM? (which could be for cached writes, open file cache, etc…)
This feature I especially hate.
Lol Apple absolutely does not do that… They just add extra crap nobody wants.
If you install windows and set the language to be english (world), there will be no preinstalled BS apps like tiktok.
Of course most people wont do that
That’s so long as your install source/disk is multi regional. Most Windows install images are for a specific region unless you’re lucky to have MSDN or bought a non-crappy OEM Windows disk.
A disk? What year is this?
Please insert floppy disk #249 and press enter. _
Wait, what are you talking about? Windows doesn’t pre-install TikTok. Are you talking about OEM versions? Those come with a bunch of bloatware because they get paid by the companies to add their software to the install. If you get a copy of windows that’s not attached to a pre-built computer, then it shouldn’t have any bloatware. Granted, I haven’t installed Windows 11, and don’t plan to, so my knowledge could be dated.
If you install windows 11 from a fresh usb right now, you’ll find TikTok, Prime Video, Candy Crush, etc. in the start menu. They’re technically not installed, more like “click to install”. Iirc, windows 10 was more or less the same, but a bit less.
I installed w11 today,there was no candy crush or tiktok or whatever. I had office,spotify,whatsapp,sudoku Legit download from the microsoft website…
I suppose it could differ by region. Spotify, WhatsApp, and sudoku are definitely paid placements
The only one that doesn’t have bloatware for money is MacOS. If Microsoft cared they would ban that.
Before anyone says Linux doesn’t have paid bloatware for money, Ubuntu had Amazon baked into for money. Additionally, many distros use Firefox that Google’s pays to have Google be the default search engine.
I tried Windows 11 on an old laptop I had. Experience:
“Why the hell is TikTok installed?”
Clicks icon
“Installing TikTok”
“No, you retard!”How about not using slurs?
i thought linux users would be smart enough to know what ads are and their first thought would be to right-click and choose “remove”, instead of opening it
guess i overestimated them a little
So Windows users are so used to ads on their desktops that they feel smug when someone doesn’t recognize them. Weird flex, but okay.
Imagine being so used to ads that you make fun of people who aren’t.
Pretty sad actually.
I’m used to ads because i actually go outside and see the light of day.
The fact that you are used to ads EVEN THOUGH you go outside is even more sad. I live in the city and even i don’t regularly see ads. Only on like bus stops and such
For whatever reasony work tools on Linux aren’t working right now, so I am using win10 for the moment.
The start menu is a fucking nightmare. I don’t care about what’s on the internet when I am looking for my software. This isn’t a mobile phone.
What’s even worse is that I know what the name of my software is. But half the time, when I use the start menu, the web results and ads load first and it takes a while to show my software, if it ever shows up at all.
I highly recommend Powertoys Run (powered by Wox) with the Everything plugin. It brings a Spotlight-like search with lightning fast search and many features like calculator, running commands and others. I almost never use the start menu nowadays. And all of this is available through Chocolatey.
Also there’s plenty other nifty tools you get as a part of Powertoys (I couldn’t live without Fancy Zones).
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-set-up-microsofts-new-spotlight-esque-powertoy-i-1843566673
I love Everything. Cannot recommend it enough.
I will look into that. I installed chocolatey and I really appreciate a package manager in windows. Gives me a bit of familarity
Maybe it’s just my age, but I use File Explorer to find things on my PC.
But Windows loves to not show you things, and the main folder(C:) just seems to get worse and more cluttered with folders with a name like: 4783DDBMJUD84WWIOT.
Well, the thing is that the start menu used to be useful. So the habit is there. Even in Linux, this is the same.
But now in windows, it’s a pile of crap riddled with ads.
Even when Win95 came out, I was so used to 3.1 navigation and the MSDOS prompt, the Start menu just never had any appeal to me.
Hell, I even right-click to shut down or restart.
I started using computers at windows 95, so to me the start menu was always there.
Install Classic Shell. It lets you change the windows UI to go back to the old Windows 7 UI (or earlier.)
Let’s not live in the past. Just disable internet searching from the start menu.
I agree, it shouldn’t have been built in and on by default and it should be easier to disable.
Personally I think Win10 start was peak Windows start because it was the most customizable.
Agiant most of these comments.
Mac actually does have one major similarity to Linux (beside it being posix)
spoiler
The UX sucks just as much as GNOME 4x
xfce for life lol
I don’t like start menus, I much prefer the UX of Gnome
The main two things I like about start menus is that it keeps all your apps out of the way, and in some resemblence of organizatoin, instead of just barfing them all out in one big cluttered mess, which is part of what turns me away from Apple, or Gnome. However, they’re not as easy to use on touchscreens. That said, ads deeply nerf this advantage.
I use search for any given app (start menu or not) so it’s all a cluttered mess as it filters down but the larger icon makes finding things faster
I do have a folder for OS utilities though because outside of terminal I don’t use them enough to know them
PC gamers have modded every game that has been released, whether legal or not. I can’t believe there is no “remove ads from start bar” mod available yet.
I have recently been using BloatyNosy at my IT job when setting up new Windows 11 PCs.
It’s a lightweight little Windows 11 debloater. It’s just a simple UI with checkboxes to modify and run a powershell script. Just in case anyone is looking for a FOSS alternative. The link that you posted looks similar, but it doesn’t appear to be open source.
Edit: To all those who downvoted me for my comment, you were right to do so. I downloaded the program and it was truly a genuinely free program with no advertising or anything. While I still am not a fan of O&O for other reasons, in this case you were all right.
I’m sorry.
It’s literally a completely free app. They made it easy for less tech-savvy people to debloat windows. Again, for free. Is it so wrong that they mention they take donations on a small portion of the bottom of their webpage? The fuck you complaining for?
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Prey on them by giving them free software that literally never asks for anything, and allows them control over areas of their computer that they wouldn’t normally understand? Okay then!
“Hey man, I gave you that for free. No you don’t need to pay me for it, but while you’re here check out my assortment of completely useless apps that will 100% make your computer super fast”
Except that didn’t happen… they don’t advertise the rest of the website or products anywhere on that page or the program itself. They never even mention that they make other apps.
Microsoft pr team putting in work here
I think you misunderstood the quote. There’s no cost, it’s free, but they’re flattered that people think it should cost money.
You are calling them losers for giving something away for free?
I just saw your edit. That’s cool, man. I’m glad you checked it out.
People say why go the extra step just to disable ads and uninstall crap on windows 10, but never say why go extra extra step just to get that one windows software running on Linux oh and MacOS is fucking suck lol
This is why I switched. You need to edit to registry to make edge not create a toolbar on your desktop. And I was like, if I jeed to edit toolbars might as well run linux. And i did
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Laughs in a clunky alternative hack that is miles behind any sort of native solution.
Needless to say, just makes myself happy to use Linux in 2023. Never buying another Windows device.
Yah wtf happened. I used Linux back in the day and it sucked. Now I check out Linux and it’s gotten so damn good over the last few years.
What do you have a Surface or something? What Windows devices do you have?
No Surface. Just a dual-boot Lin/Win PC, a flight sim PC, and a driving sim PC. All run Windows. Everything else has Linux, even a Galaxy Book2 360 (which is notoriously hard to get Linux working)!
