• @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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          104 months ago

          You say this as if Pelosi isn’t in a similar boat, leading the sinking ship she refuses to get off of because she’ll have nothing to do and no one to boss around anymore.

          All of the DNC leadership are there in their 80+ glory. Constantly in the way of actually winning by making the decision they want in a vacuum ignoring the real world, and further ignoring everything that happens after that point. They did it with Hilary, they did it with Biden the first time (only winning because Trump clearly let millions die from COVID, and even then it was still somehow close). They just expect Dems to vote because the alternative is worse, instead of giving people an actual reason to do so, and are always surprised by the outcomes.

          The DNC made their choice last year and it was never going to be different. The only reason they’re talking about it now is because the debate that was never going to be a positive for Biden in any universe, was handled poorly, to the surprise of no one actually paying attention.

          • @Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
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            34 months ago

            Pelosi stepped down as House Minority leader. I would like her (and the other 75+ members of Congress) to step down entirely, but tbf it could have been worse.

          • Drusas
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            14 months ago

            Leading the sinking ship she refuses to get off? She got off of it already. She’s not leading anymore. She’s preparing to retire.

            • @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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              14 months ago

              You honestly think the current DNC leadership doesn’t still do what Pelosi says? You are an idiot if you think no longer having the title means no longer having power in US politics.

              You also conveniently are ignoring the rest of the leadership. They’re still the other old fucks with the same ideas.

              Changing a CEO doesn’t replace the rest of the Board of Directors.

  • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    174 months ago

    Biden is defensive by nature. He got super defensive when he was told how fucked up the Afghanistan withdrawl went, and again when told people were complaining about the economy.

  • @kiljoy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    114 months ago

    This is a laugh or you’ll cry moment lmao. Bernie I wish you had like half of trump’s personality and told Biden to eat shit in 2020.

    • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      34 months ago

      For all the vaguely bigoted caricatures of him as the quintessential grumpy old (Jewish) man from Brooklyn, Bernie’s biggest problem was always that he’s far too nice to people who stab him in the back (and front) and makes up all sorts of heinous things about him.

      Classic examples from 2016 is when Hillary said that Bernie didn’t have “real grandchildren” and he said nothing, or when he shot himself in the foot politically by telling the truth that “people are sick and tired of hearing about the damn emails” while she gave her most manically gleeful witch cackle.

      • Drusas
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        34 months ago

        Wait, what? Doesn’t have real grandchildren? Were they adopted? What a horrible thing to say.

        • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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          44 months ago

          Yeah, They’re biologically Jane’s but he considers them his own too. And yep, that WAS indeed a horrible thing to say 😡

  • Drusas
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    54 months ago

    If it wad said privately, it wouldn’t be here.

  • @JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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    24 months ago

    And everyone clicked and everyone shared and CNN made more money.

    Just another day of manipulation and profit.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    14 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi privately told President Joe Biden in a recent conversation that polling shows that the president cannot defeat Donald Trump and that Biden could destroy Democrats’ chances of winning the House in November if he continues seeking a second term, according to four sources briefed on the call.

    The president responded by pushing back, telling Pelosi he has seen polls that indicate he can win, one source said.

    At one point, Pelosi asked Mike Donilon, Biden’s longtime adviser, to get on the line to talk over the data.

    This phone call would mark the second known conversation between the California lawmaker and Biden since the president’s disastrous debate on June 27.

    When asked for comment, White House spokesperson Andrew Bates did not respond to the details of CNN’s reporting on the recent Pelosi-Biden call.

    A Pelosi spokesperson told CNN that the former House speaker has been in California since Friday and she has not spoken to Biden since.


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