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Flying Squid@lemmy.world to science@lemmy.world · 10 months ago

Neolithic population collapse may have been caused by plague, researchers say

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Neolithic population collapse may have been caused by plague, researchers say

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Flying Squid@lemmy.world to science@lemmy.world · 10 months ago
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DNA studies suggest disease was central to devastating collapse of northern European population 5,000 years ago
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    With the rise of global warming, risks of such epidemics increases … thankfully today, we have antibiotics and vaccines against plague. So, let’s try real hard not to decay back into stone age.

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      I wouldn’t be too reliant on antimicrobials.

      https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/antimicrobial-resistance

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        Yes, this is a real concern …
        … but allow me to express it in a funny way : some microbes are trying real hard to find a cure against penicillin.

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          That is not untrue.

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          When on the gallows, humour may be all you have left 😄

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      Post just before this one: We are in a race with ever-evolving bacteria — and we are losing. Climate change is making the battle much harder

      Edit: Better link?

      Edit edit : that link crashes Jerboa: !climate@slrpnk.net/post/11406660

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        Yes, thanks.
        Same link but from : lemmy.world
        https://lemmy.world/c/climate@slrpnk.net
        … Climate change could return us to the pre-antibiotic era :
        https://lemmy.world/post/17552975

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          Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !climate@slrpnk.net

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      I would argue that the higher risk for this is the constant travel between countries.

      A plague that may have affected a specific area in the past will now hit all humanity in a couple of months, as seen with covid.

      Also constant travel is one of the big contributors to global warming.

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    The Neolithic population crash in northern Europe occurred from about 3300BC to 2900BC. By that time, cities and sophisticated civilisations had already arisen in places such as Egypt and Mesopotamia. [emphasis added]

    I will recommend a good book that I’m currently reading: 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed

    It’s largely about the possibility of The Sea Peoples as the primary force for multiple civilizational collapses, but the author does a pretty good job of pointing out how little or no evidence really exists in many of the cases discussed. It’s giving me a lot more perspective about the type of cultural sharing that was going on around the Mediterranean at that time.

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    These two ancestral Y. pestis genomes were identified from a Swedish individual with Neolithic Farmer (that is, Anatolian-derived) ancestry (5035–4856 cal. bp)4 and an individual from Latvia with hunter-gatherer ancestry (5300–5050 cal. bp)10, respectively. Although these genomes are of very similar age and ancestral to all other plague genomes available, the two studies arrive at different conclusions: Rascovan et al. argue that their finding supports a role of plague in the Neolithic decline whereas Susat et al. conclude that these early plague forms are probably a result of sporadic zoonotic events.

    Time to check on the mooFlu in the US.

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