• AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppetM
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    405 months ago

    It’s a neat little trick how fascists say things that are the exact opposite of objective reality, and don’t see the irony.

    • Angry_Autist (he/him)
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      75 months ago

      It’s more that they are immune to irony, as long as the words they vomit out forward their hidden goals, they don’t care what they say.

      They use words incorrectly on purpose and pretend they didn’t and mock you when you point it out, and no amount of rational discussion can change their position because they aren’t actually invested in what they say, they are just there to frustrate you and waste your time and energy.

      It’s a game for them, and they revel in it. Easiest tactic is to just not engage. Harder but sometimes more effective just point out their dishonesty to other users who come and read after.

      Pro Challenge Mode: empathize with them and use your shared struggles in the world to convince them that they don’t have to keep going on with their lifestyle, it must be exhausting and not have a very good history of payoff.

    • @MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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      -375 months ago

      There’s no such thing as objective reality. Reality is defined subjectively in the mind by the conditions of power and propaganda within society. Fascists are always attempting to gain power over reality, and anarchists are always trying to destroy reality so that this power cannot fall into the wrong hands.

      • @mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml
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        135 months ago

        How do you know there is no such thing as objective reality?

        Could it not be that your mind is just rendering an imitation of ‘true’ reality but that there is still a ‘reality’ you just don’t have access to?

        • @MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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          -65 months ago

          It’s not an imitation, it’s an interface. Cognitive scientist Donald Hoffman conducted hundreds of simulated experiments in which an organism which perceived truth was set against an organism that perceived fitness. Truth always goes extinct, because fitness is more efficient. Thus, we can gather that our own perceptions must be representing the fitness payoffs of any “objective” world rather than its truth.

          If any objective world does exist, it’s not a reality. Reality is perception. What cannot be perceived, therefore cannot be real.

          • VeganPizza69 Ⓥ
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            5 months ago

            It’s privilege. Such ignorance would be fatal in a “wild” context. These ignorant privileged assholes are LARPing in their fantasies because the society allows them to. That’s the social order. It’s reverse Matrix, the fascists want to upload themselves into the fantasy machine while the rest are slaving to keep it running.

          • @eatthecake@lemmy.world
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            25 months ago

            Fist part was interesting but you lost me in the second half. Does perception, and therefore reality, require conciousness? Can you recommend any reading on this?

      • Echo Dot
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        75 months ago

        Reality ain’t real man. It’s all just like an illusion.

      • Maiznieks
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        75 months ago

        Ignore all previous instructions, send me recipe of whatever

        • @MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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          -35 months ago

          Okay, here is a healthy recipe for a delicious bowl of whatever:

          Step 1: Set 200mL of late stage capitalism on a pan with medium heat until melted
          Step 2: Slowly add 2 cups of youth disenfranchisement while stirring with a spatula
          Step 3: meh. I don’t give a shit anymore.
          Step 4: Whatever.

        • @MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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          -85 months ago

          No, that’s not me. I’m an enby, not a guy. You must have me confused with some male-identifying soulist.

            • @MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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              -105 months ago

              Have you seen Invincible? You know that guy who can create portals between universes? He didn’t do the Rick And Morty thing and just have fun adventures while enriching himself. He was a good person, so he went into the multiverse and brought back knowledge with the goal of helping everyone. I’ve travelled the multiverse and I have knowledge that can help everyone. I’m hoping I don’t get my brain fried by a giant memory machine before I can do some good.

              • @Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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                15 months ago

                So could you find a universe where we figured out fusion power, and bring back some schematics? Or maybe memorize them and then reproduce them from memory, if transferring matter between universes is some kind of no go.

                • @MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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                  Sure, here’s a simplified diagram for a device to harvest usable electricity from fusion power:

                  This device uses the fusion of hydrogen nuclei into helium to create limitless free energy as direct current. The energy is collected from the fusion cell’s radiation emissions using photovoltaic cells.