Yeah, no. The Internet isn’t meant to be a safe space for bigots. They’re free to post and everyone else is free to chase them back under the rock where they belong.
and this is where the conversation usually devolves into a hate fuck of everyone actually agreeing but they used the wrong words so I’m all in on you being the bad guy now.
I’ll make the analogy more clear to you. In 1984 the government got absolute information control, thats what you guys are worried about. In Fahrenheit 451 people themselves censored everything that offended anyone, eventually leading to all the books being burnt.
People have opinions, and lemmy is becoming a worse echochamber than reddit.
Except the irony here is that the people we don’t want here are those offended by everything, like different people existing, and are also the one banning books. most people aren’t as easily offended as you make out to be, but most people expect jokes and behavior to be done in good taste, which translates to meaning no harms and no hate. only extremists of all sorts usually break that “rule”.
But nobody is burning books, we’re just saying don’t be a piece of shit on our website. If you feel like being a piece of shit, https://boards.4chan.org/b/ is right here, perfectly safe and unburned.
My brother in Christ, you are conflating free speech with the freedom from consequences. You are free to express your opinions. You will not be arrested for that. You can use the internet however you wish to express whatever opinions you have, no matter how stupid or hateful they are.
However, if your opinion sucks, the community will “deal with it” by down voting your dumb ass, and if you piss enough people off, you’ll get banned. Your rights have not been infringed. You’re just an asshole and people don’t want to listen to you anymore. You can freely go complain about it somewhere else.
I’m sure there is a community on the Internet that would welcome your shitty opinions into their little echo chamber. Go there if you don’t like it here. Or, as you say: “deal with it”.
People have the right to say what they want (at least in the US, mostly), which includes people voicing their disagreement with stuff. It’s a two-way street and we’re better off with it that way. You can’t force someone to listen to you, just like someone can’t force you to listen to them.
What you can do, however, is attempt to educate people if they’re willing to be educated. If successful in doing so, you help decrease the amount of bigotry that exists. In my opinion, attempting to engage with an individual to determine their intent is a way of dealing with it. Why stay silent when you could help make the world a better place?
Hey, leave rednecks out of it, the real ones mostly whant to be left alone and the more political ones are just syndicalist and pro workers rights. The nazi ones are city dwellers that own small dick energy trucks.
Man I know lots of small town rednecks and none of them are pro workers rights.
They’ve all been fooled into believing trickle down economics and at least half are anti vaxxers and while most aren’t vocal about LGBT stuff they all roll their eyes and wouldn’t give a shit if trans people were crucified. Oh and they all have oversized trucks just like every redneck does.
I don’t know where this idea of good rednecks comes from, there’s plenty of good people but they aren’t rednecks.
You wherent, you said good people cannot be rednecks, i.e. rural people. But wathever i dont whanna keep arguing about this. Just dont hate people because they have a rural lifestile, Ok?
How about just deal with it? Internet is meant to be free space, that includes racists, bigots, rednecks, people you disagree with.
Lemmy is worried about 1984 but in actuality is becoming Fahrenheit 451.
Yeah, no. The Internet isn’t meant to be a safe space for bigots. They’re free to post and everyone else is free to chase them back under the rock where they belong.
While you’re not wrong he said free space not safe space
And had it pointed out they’re free to post …just not free from consequences.
Unleash the kevins.
and this is where the conversation usually devolves into a hate fuck of everyone actually agreeing but they used the wrong words so I’m all in on you being the bad guy now.
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I don’t think you’ve read either book because that analogy makes absolutely no sense.
I’ll make the analogy more clear to you. In 1984 the government got absolute information control, thats what you guys are worried about. In Fahrenheit 451 people themselves censored everything that offended anyone, eventually leading to all the books being burnt.
People have opinions, and lemmy is becoming a worse echochamber than reddit.
Except the irony here is that the people we don’t want here are those offended by everything, like different people existing, and are also the one banning books. most people aren’t as easily offended as you make out to be, but most people expect jokes and behavior to be done in good taste, which translates to meaning no harms and no hate. only extremists of all sorts usually break that “rule”.
But nobody is burning books, we’re just saying don’t be a piece of shit on our website. If you feel like being a piece of shit, https://boards.4chan.org/b/ is right here, perfectly safe and unburned.
Oh so you ARE and ignorant, uninformed shitbag.
insulting someone’s intelligence while being unable to form a sentence will always be funny
My brother in Christ, you are conflating free speech with the freedom from consequences. You are free to express your opinions. You will not be arrested for that. You can use the internet however you wish to express whatever opinions you have, no matter how stupid or hateful they are.
However, if your opinion sucks, the community will “deal with it” by down voting your dumb ass, and if you piss enough people off, you’ll get banned. Your rights have not been infringed. You’re just an asshole and people don’t want to listen to you anymore. You can freely go complain about it somewhere else.
I’m sure there is a community on the Internet that would welcome your shitty opinions into their little echo chamber. Go there if you don’t like it here. Or, as you say: “deal with it”.
“but why can’t I say offensive shit, it’s so funny every single time”
It’s not, edgy humor is stale especially the likes of 4chan
Hey man, don’t you think that’s kinda insensitive?
Nobody on the left is burning books if you’d look outside your bunker asshole.
Nobody on the right is either lmao. People who think this shit are reaching as far as the Q lunatics.
They aren’t burning books YET, but the right sure as fuck are bringing bans into place.
People have the right to say what they want (at least in the US, mostly), which includes people voicing their disagreement with stuff. It’s a two-way street and we’re better off with it that way. You can’t force someone to listen to you, just like someone can’t force you to listen to them.
What you can do, however, is attempt to educate people if they’re willing to be educated. If successful in doing so, you help decrease the amount of bigotry that exists. In my opinion, attempting to engage with an individual to determine their intent is a way of dealing with it. Why stay silent when you could help make the world a better place?
Hey, leave rednecks out of it, the real ones mostly whant to be left alone and the more political ones are just syndicalist and pro workers rights. The nazi ones are city dwellers that own small dick energy trucks.
Man I know lots of small town rednecks and none of them are pro workers rights.
They’ve all been fooled into believing trickle down economics and at least half are anti vaxxers and while most aren’t vocal about LGBT stuff they all roll their eyes and wouldn’t give a shit if trans people were crucified. Oh and they all have oversized trucks just like every redneck does.
I don’t know where this idea of good rednecks comes from, there’s plenty of good people but they aren’t rednecks.
Well fuck them i guess. Might as well label every single person that lives in rural areas your enemy if you are gonna generalize that much.
I guess I wasn’t clear enough in my last sentence, so me spell it out for you:
There’s plenty of good people in rural areas but they aren’t rednecks.
Nah, I’m not letting the racists claim redneck. I’m not letting them take Jeff Foxworthy
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You wherent, you said good people cannot be rednecks, i.e. rural people. But wathever i dont whanna keep arguing about this. Just dont hate people because they have a rural lifestile, Ok?
Where is this idea that rural equals redneck coming from? Now who’s generalizing, good lord
Pull you head out of your ass.
Nobody asked you troll.
I didn’t knew that about good rednecks! I only knew it about the good skinheads. But, today I learned…
Love you telling on yourself with that list
I don’t believe that you’ve read either book
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Deal with what, exactly?
https://xkcd.com/1357/