• @Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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    135 months ago

    Fascism is a right-wing reactionary movement that takes power by subverting democracy.

    You know you’re lying, but you do it anyway because reactionaries only care about appearing to win an argument.

    We’ve had this discussion before, and you keep lying because you’re a reactionary who doesn’t care about the facts; you only care about appearing to win the argument.

    Republicans are the ones who nominated a candidate who says immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”

    Republicans are the ones advocating for political violence, which is then enforced by their militias and “lone wolves.”

    Republicans are the ones taking away the rights of women and sexual minorities.

    Republicans are the ones who simp for a strongman fascist leader like good little goose-steppers.

    Republicans are the ones marching with the Nazis shouting “Jews will not replace us,” a crowd which contained “very fine people,” according to said fascist strongman.

    Republicans attacked the capital building to try and overthrow a lawful election.

    You don’t fool anyone with your lazy bullshit. The only people who agree are also radical reactionaries.

    • @TruffleStuff@lemm.ee
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      95 months ago

      You describing their goals to them will not shame them like you hope. You’re validating them. You hear them loud and clear, we all do. When we think we’re “pointing out the problem” we’re just enumerating their to-do list. They point at things like universal healthcare, gun reform, worker’s rights, and DEI the same way. We don’t see any issue with listing our wants either.

      There’s no point talking to them. They’ve made their choice. They’re beyond saving. Facts don’t matter if you’ve made up your mind.

      • @Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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        Oh I know. I’m not really talking to them, I’m talking about them.

        They have a completely different set of values, one not based on morality but instead in power.

        They believe everything in politics is zero-sum: if there is a liberation movement or somebody gets a right recognized that should have been all along they see it as a loss for those who have privilege.

        There is a reactionary streak running through all of American history: from the slaveholders who went to war to defend their human property to the America First movement in the 30’s to the KKK’s terror campaigns all the way through the neo-cons and the MAGA fascists.

        There’s a reason why they want to confuse the issue, and my policy is that when reactionaries tell you what they don’t like there’s a reason to keep doing it; It’s why they banned the word “fascist” here for a while: they know what they are, but don’t want it said aloud.

        • @TruffleStuff@lemm.ee
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          85 months ago

          When they play by the rules, they lose. That’s why they attack voting rights with their gerrymandering, voter de-registration, and limited polling sites. Rejecting democratic processes is how the party will continue living. As for this little corner of the Internet? They think they can set the rules to only allow positive conservative news and topics. But democracy wins again and all the up voted articles highlight conservative shortcomings. There isn’t a conservative opinion in here with a positive score but that’s just another election they want to control.

          • @p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world
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            Republicans are a joke. Just a bunch of uneducated pro fascists that think everyone is beneath them who doesn’t support Trump. All they care for is “owning libs”, “muh guns”, “muh religion” and skittering about to justify every single fucked up thing Trump has done. There is no accountability. They hate the democrats and their politics so much they are willing to prop their twice impeached, rapist and convicted on 34 counts felon candidate up to extreme heights. Trump can literally walk up to them, slaughter their family and still, they’d vote for him. They don’t understand why they’re a cult. They don’t understand that Donald Trump and the GoP are actual, real fascists. All that matters is owning the libs and beating the democrats. They are first in line to bash the LGBTQ and yet they still rub one out to two woman going at it in bed. They do not understand the gravity of the Trump situation either. All that matters is that their precious leader gains office.

            In b4 “lul I’m not reading all that”

            We know, trust me. That’s part of the problem.

      • @Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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        It’s not my fault that you’re a reactionary.

        You’re steeped in fascism; a fish doesn’t think it’s wet.

        But you don’t whine when Neuromancer calls the left fascists?

        Idgaf if reactionaries take me seriously, and “nuh-uh” doesn’t refute anything I said.

        Sit down.

        • casey is remote
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          -95 months ago

          @Zombiepirate Saying that #Trump is a fascist doesn’t make it so, neither does calling me a reactionary.

          However I do understand that such a reductionist perspective makes the world a lot simpler and therefore easier to understand, I used to be there too, when I was quite a bit younger and farther to the right.

          • @Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works
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            45 months ago

            Riiiiight. Trump IS absolutely a fascist. He’s playing the EXACT same playbook that ya’lls hero hitler did.

            I mean c’mon, you can’t be so delusional that you don’t know that is the endgame here. You love the fascist shit because you don’t understand that you will be crushed under the traitor’s regime also. Enjoy!

            • @p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world
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              They’re not fully delusional. They’re literally incapable of understanding. Logic is not their strong suit and I’m not being a dick, I’m stating the facts. This fundamental inability to understand is the reason they are so easily manipulated into becoming blindly loyal Trump cultists.

              Tldr: They’re not very smart, and that is why they are now a cult.

              Also, I stand with Kyle Gass.

              • @MarciaLynnDorsett@lemmy.world
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                55 months ago

                how about unilaterally infringing on my right to keep and bear arms? or tightening border controls? those two came to me instantly, but i bet a careful review of his presidency would be pretty enlighteting.

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                  @MarciaLynnDorsett

                  > how about unilaterally infringing on my right to keep and bear arms?

                  While that’s bad, and it’s one reason I opposed #Trump in the primaries, it’s not like that makes him unique in any way. #Obama and #GeorgeWBush both have poor records in that area also.

                  > tightening border controls

                  So…just to clarify…you want me to believe that having border controls is #fascism?

              • NeuromancerOPM
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                -35 months ago

                That’s the funny part. They can’t explain how he is a fascist but darn it. He’s a fascist.

                Remember when Trump was in office and we lose our freedoms? Nope, neither do I.

                Remember when we had all this insane inflation under Trump ? Nope, neither do I.

                I’m ready for things to get back to normal and Trump will do that.

                • @Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works
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                  35 months ago

                  We have insane inflation BECAUSE OF THE TRAITOR.

                  That lying child raping filth EXPLODED the deficit, printed INSANE amounts of money using quantitative easing during the good economy he was handed by Obama, gave away TRILLIONS with his removal of ALL OVERSIGHT for the PPP scam, and cut taxes on billionaires while increasing your own to pay for it.

                  Republicans plunder and loot and trash the economy EVERY FUCKING TIME, Democrats come in and fix it, just in time for a Republican rapist to fuck it all up again. Fucking learn some history.

                  Also, I know you don’t give a fuck about women, but I know PLENTY who will NEVER vote for the fascists stripping away their healthcare rights.

                  Jesus fucking titty tap dancing christ how fucking stupid are you people.

                  • NeuromancerOPM
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                    -45 months ago

                    It should have been. That’s a good thing.

                    Most people don’t understand what happened. They just want to skree instead of being educated on the topic.

                    Either congress needs to pass a law or the states get to decide. It was the right decision.

      • NeuromancerOPM
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        -115 months ago

        Just ignore the trolls. They want to LARP that they are not the fascist. Wink wink.

          • NeuromancerOPM
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            -105 months ago

            The irony is I’m not a huge fan of trump but I have no choice to vote for him to avoid the fascist from taking over. It’s weird watching them all skree about project 2025 when that isn’t even Trump’s agenda. You think they’d focus on what Trump is actually going to do which is agenda 47. Some I agree with. Some I don’t but it’s better than Biden’s plan of destroying America.

              • NeuromancerOPM
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                -85 months ago

                The democrats as a whole are the fascist. You don’t make up crimes to try to prosecute the opposing team. It’s why they keep losing in court.

                • @Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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                  95 months ago

                  He was found guilty by a jury of his peers.

                  He was also found liable for sexual assault.

                  Blaming others for your bad choices is a reactionary cornerstone.

                • @Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works
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                  You’re absolutely fucking delusional. Enjoy have your freedoms further stripped under your fuhrer’s rule you anti-american piece of shit.

                  • NeuromancerOPM
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                    -75 months ago

                    I lost zero under Trump and many under Biden. I will take Trump under Biden any day.