• @kitnaht@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Because we’re all relying on historical context. No previous-loser has ever won against the person who beat them in the history of presidential elections.

    Democrats funding for cops actually helps democrats reach centrists and independent voters.

    Nobody actually gives a shit about Israel and Palestine. People bringing this up are feigning concern.

    Nobody has ever said Biden will ‘protect us from Trump’. Not voting for Trump is what protects us from Trump. Telling people to stick it to the man and vote for someone else is harmful, because it splits the vote.

    • @OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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      275 months ago

      Nobody actually gives a shit about Israel and Palestine. People bringing this up are feigning concern.

      What the fuck are you going on about? Just because you’re a psychopath who doesn’t give a shit about other people doesn’t mean we all are.

      • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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        -45 months ago

        I cannot claim to know OP’s mind, but IMHO, I think those that are performatively wringing their hands and clutching their pearls over the situation in Israel right now are either a bit deluded or just out to delude others, IF they are acting like having donnie instead of Biden would make that situation in any way better. And if they are telling people to vote third party or stay home to lodge a stupid protest against The Man, they are only helping donnie. Which again, will result in things going from very, very bad to far far worse.

        • @spaduf@slrpnk.net
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          105 months ago

          Nobody is making that argument. You were the person the op was taking about. Nobody’s going to vote trump over Palestine.

          • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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            15 months ago

            Sorry, I guess I was talking about kitnaht not the OP. And people actually are making this kind of argument, including around here. These are the same types that argue donnie is for keeping us out of “WWIII” (while Hillary obviously wanted one, lol) and ignore all his statements about wanting to level Gaza, etc.

            Now, how many are trolls/bots, it’s hard to say…

    • @Suavevillain@lemmy.world
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      Historical context really doesn’t mean anything here. Trump isn’t the average republican guy. He has taken over the whole party with his ideology alone. Tons of people care about genocide. Not to mention people directly affected by it. Biden’s whole pitch was he can get stuff done and be a one-term President. None of that has happened. This moment requires boldness and conviction. Biden is not the man for that at all.

      Betting all your chips on a man who is hanging by a thread is a risky gamble to protect whatever is left of this country.

    • @Skydancer@pawb.social
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      145 months ago

      Nobody has ever done anything until they did. You’re not really saying much there.

      While we’re at it though, no previous president has ever won reelection with an approval rating below 48% either. Biden’s hasn’t polled that high in over a year and a half.

    • @givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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      145 months ago

      . No previous-loser has ever won against the person who beat them in the history of presidential elections.

      Biden’s current approval rating is 34%…

      What’s the last president with numbers that low he got a second term?

      Like, I don’t think people understand how historically unpopular Biden is. 34% is fucking insane for being the president that followed trump, you can’t get a better set up than being compared to that shitheel.

      • archomrade [he/him]
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        95 months ago

        Liberals are so self-assured that they occupy the majority position that they simply cannot fathom that number is accurate.

        I honestly do not think there is any way to get through to those people. Everyone who disagrees is either not a real american democrat or have been duped by the fake media.

        They will drive us clear over the edge of the cliff and blame us for giving them the wrong directions.

        • @givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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          45 months ago

          It’s just insane to me.

          Like, there’s that thread where Biden’s talking about not bowing to “elites and millionaires” calling for him to drop…

          And people are acting like that’s really what’s happening.

          The elite and billionaires are the only ones not calling for him to drop, he’s trying to frame it as him fighting for what voters want, but voters don’t want Joe as the candidate.

          On Friday when they asked him about the polls, he just pulled a trump and said they weren’t fucking real.

          Before trump in 2016, that answer would never have fucking flown.

        • @Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee
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          45 months ago

          When I was campaigning for Bernie, I ran into two groups of people who you just COULD NOT have a reasonable conversation with… Magas and Clinton liberals… They just will not/cannot see reality

        • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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          45 months ago

          Yeah, I’m getting some real Hillary 2016 energy on this one. Instead of it being “her turn”, this time around, it’s about Biden’s “legacy”. And I’m sure I’m not alone when I say I don’t give a fuck about either of those things, I’m very much in the majority. Biden’s legacy can get stuffed just as much as any notion that it was Hillary’s birthright to be the first female American President…

          TBF, the same “deep state” that the right clutches their pearls over are the same ones that pulled the Butter Emails garbage…but still. Beating donnie should be a slam dunk. He’s basically the Washington Generals here, but somehow, the Democrats seem to do worse.