• @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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      154 months ago

      ??? Why would old collaborators (of which decidents were justly punished later) hurt “the tankie”?

      Better mention banderites who ran off to the west where they were sucking up to CIA, MI6 and West German washed-nazi intelligence while murdering people left and right (in Germany, after war no less). it’s even in the wiki too.

        • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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          174 months ago

          Molotov-Ribbentrop is a great example of liberals not being able to think for themselves. Hitler literally wrote in Mein Kampf that his goal was to destroy the communist movement, occupy Russia, and enslave the Slavs. It is literally impossible for the Soviets to believe they could form an alliance, which means your conclusion that Molotov-Ribbentrop constitutes meaningful collaboration is incorrect.

          If you study the history around it, the USSR wanted absolutely nothing to do with war after its revolution because it wanted to focus all of its efforts on building a new nation. The treaty was negotiated in attempt to delay armed conflict as much as possible and to take advantage of contradictions in capitalism/fascism to create that extra time.

          • sunzu
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            -194 months ago

            which means your conclusion that Molotov-Ribbentrop constitutes meaningful collaboration is incorrect.

            Enough to split up Poland tho haha

            Cope harder boy

              • sunzu
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                -164 months ago

                Now we are talking!

                Doesn’t execuse soviet behavior but some very valuable history that people should be aware of. Remember folks they did this back then and again in 2014 with Crimea.

                No wonder Putin thought of the west as a bunch of limp dick cucks. Took Germany well into 2023 to finally change its posture. Pathetic

                “Never gain” rheee

                • carl_marks[use name]
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                  144 months ago

                  Doesn’t execuse soviet behavior but some very valuable history that people should be aware of.

                  Yes which you fail to contextualize. The soviets failed to find allies against Hitler before the war, and saw their collaboration in the Munich agreement and the deal with Hitler being made at their expense instead. You bringing up M-R NON AGGRESSION pact as a form of collaboration and not as a stalling of the inevitable explanation of Hitler to the east is just cope

                  Remember folks they did this back then and again in 2014 with Crimea.

                  “Fellas did you know mordern Bourgeoise Russia is the same as the soviets??”

        • @duderium2@lemmy.world
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          144 months ago

          Hey liberal, I’m a little fuzzy on dates. Did this happen before or after the Munich agreement? Before or after Stalin tried to ally with Britain and France against the Nazis?