• @FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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    15 months ago

    So requesting you be honest and fully inform kids is pedophiliac tendencies? You do get how this makes you look? Right?

    No, I’m talking about your kiddy diddling/anti-trans rhetoric. Why do you diddle kids/spread anti-trans rhetoric?

    • @Frokke
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      -35 months ago

      Please point out where I wrote anything like that. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

      • @FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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        25 months ago

        Well, you’re posting anti-trans rhetoric (talking about regret rates without mentioning that they are much lower than almost any others, talking as if people weren’t well-informed about the risks during the multi-year process it takes to transition etc). I can quote your whole post back to you if it helps you? But you can just scroll up and read your own comment, it’s a neat function of messaging boards.

        • @Frokke
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          -55 months ago

          Informed consent is now anti-trans? Really?

          • @FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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            25 months ago

            Implying that the current levels of informed consent aren’t enough to properly inform people, and further implying that large amounts of regret exist due to transitioning, is without question anti-trans.

            • @Frokke
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              Please point out where I made those statements?

              As was mentioned, it’s a long process. With still 1%, which is a very conservative estimate, regretting it after all those years, all that information. I feel this should be mentioned.

              What you did not mention however was the 13% that stopped transitioning and started detransitioning. The previous 1% only takes into account completed transitions. Since it’s a lengthy process, there are many that stop during the process.

              That should also be mentioned and the fact that you willingly choose to omit it shows you do not want informed consent.

              • @FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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                35 months ago

                Wow, you really can’t scroll up? Fine, here’s your previous comment:

                Weird how you left out the links of studies, reports of people that actually do regret it. I mean should we just ignore those people?

                If you want kids to be able to make these decisions, you will have to inform them. Properly. Not just paint them a nice picture. That’s what you’re currently doing. Not informing them and painting nice pink pictures.

                It is not sunshine and rainbows for everyone. There are trans people who regret it. Ignoring that fact is being dishonest with yourself and the transcommunity.

                Not sure why you’re telling me I didn’t mention some 13% number, when I didn’t mention any numbers at all. Yet it’s even more weird that you’re not bringing up that even those 13% are lower than most other medical interventions. Again, why do you keep focusing on trans topics, when other medical interventions have this issue to a much larger degree?

                Why do you want to diddle small children/spread anti-trans rhetoric?

                • @Frokke
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                  -65 months ago

                  Removed by mod

                  • @FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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                    If your issue is regret of medical interventions, why are you focussing on one of the medical interventions with the lowest regret rate? Why not invest your time in one of the many other interventions with massively bigger regret rates? The easy and obvious answer is that you have issues with trans people, and you haven’t given any explanation when I asked you multiple times, strongly supporting that thesis.

                    Even 13% is much lower than most medical interventions. Why do you not know this? If you do, why do you lie about it?

                    Why don’t you want people to know the truth? Why are you going Elon here? What are you trying to hide?

              • @JonsJava@lemmy.worldM
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                15 months ago

                Provide peer-reviewed evidence to your claims, or you will be banned for multiple instances of misinformation.

                10 hours.