• Encrypt-Keeper
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    25 months ago

    iPhones haven’t had best in class cameras in years. One of the pain points of moving to iPhone was giving up the superior camera experience of Google pixels and Samsung phones.

    • danielfgom
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      05 months ago
      1. Pixel is good but outside the US is barely available
      2. The only good Samsung cameras are on the Galaxy S line aka premium models. The rest of the phones, the ones most people buy, are crap.

      For the price of a used iPhone there is NO phone that can take as good photos and videos

      • Encrypt-Keeper
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        5 months ago

        Not at all. iPhones are very capable point and shoot camera phones, but even at a more budget price point iPhone cameras haven’t been best in class in at least 5 or 6 years.

        The pixel 5-6 were like $600 phones with unmatched cameras and even better camera software. The modern non-pro pixels like the 7 and 8 also beat out all but the pro max models of recent iPhones.

        Similar to that the Samsung fan edition phones were beating out iPhone cameras at a $600 price point brand new.

        That isn’t to say there’s anything wrong with iPhone cameras, but they’re not nearly the best either. Even at lower price points. Like it’s becoming quite clear that you are just saying things at this point because you really like iPhones. But almost none of the things you claim are remotely true.

        • danielfgom
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          15 months ago

          I’m not saying that because I like iPhones.

          You are in the US so pixels are widely available and cheap. As is the FE series.

          Where I live, outside the US, the Pixel is not sold nor will Google let you buy it. So pixel is a no go.

          The Fan Edition Samsung costs virtually the same as the regular edition where I live, if you can find an FE. It costs €700+…

          99% of our population can only afford €250-300 phones. €700 is out of reach unless you’re single, hehe a great job and still live with mum and dad. Or you are the 1%.

          So at that price ALL the android cameras are shit, shit, shit.

          So, if I import from the UK a used iPhone 12 it will cost about €350. At that price NOTHING can touch it below €700.

          Everything below €700 is Chinese cheapie and Samsung cheapie, also known as crap phones.

          • @Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de
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            15 months ago

            I don’t get it. I live in Germany and own a pixel 7 pro. I had no trouble buying it. In fact, I just bought one for my wife. Decided I don’t need the pixel 8 because the 7 pro works like a charm. Where do you live that you can’t buy Pixels?

            • danielfgom
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              15 months ago

              Cyprus. Also in the EU but no official sales or support. I’m sure it’s the same in most countries in South America, Africa, Asia and the Far East.

      • @Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de
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        15 months ago

        If you want good photos, buy a real camera with a good lens and learn to manipulate raw files. Smartphone pictures will only look good on a tiny screen. The amount of postprocessing that takes place without any of your input makes the photos look bland. That said, android phones do have the better hardware and by saving the raw files you at least get to develop the pictures yourself, the way you want it, sort of.

        • danielfgom
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          15 months ago

          I have a great pocket camera but it’s not practical to carry it wherever I go. Most photos are taken spontaneously and for that reason you want a great camera on your smartphone.

          Also, most Android phones cannot capture RAW.