Former president Donald Trump pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges that he conspired to overturn the results of the 2020 election, appearing in the federal courthouse that sits just blocks away from where his angry supporters stormed the Capitol building in an effort to keep him in power.

        • @NewNewAccount@lemmy.world
          1•11 months ago

          At least Comey had good motivations. I don’t think he anticipated the consequences and was naive at how rotten America was.

          I don’t think we should shame someone for trying to uphold our collective (claimed) American values.

        • @krayj@lemmy.world
          37•11 months ago

          She wouldn’t have been any better than drumpf

          Hard disagree.

          Most likely, Hillary just wouldn’t have accomplished much of anything (and not so much for lack of agenda or effort but because of the unprecedented amount of rightwing/conservative resistance put up for everything she would have attempted. But at worst, it would just have been business as usual for another 4 years. Trump has actually turned the country, the executive branch, the judicial branch, national safety, the economy, and the environment into a continent-sized dumpster fire that will burn for decades. Hillary wouldn’t have done that.

          Hillary’s greatest sin was coming into the 2016 election as if she’d already won…as if she -deserved- to win…as if it was pre-ordained…and that really rubbed people the wrong way. Being a woman didn’t help - half this country are a few IQ points away from neanderthals who don’t believe women are capable of leading a nation, so that didn’t help either.

          The democratic party also deserves much of the blame- they were going to shit on Bernie and promote Hillary regardless of what the common voters wanted…because they had the power to do that and they were willing to exercise that power. So fuck them too.

          (if it’s not obvious, I thought Bernie was the clear superior choice also)

                • @calabast@lemm.ee
                  6•11 months ago

                  Sorry, you forgot to disparage a group of people this time, so we actually can’t play a card. But don’t let that stop you from believing that everyone who disagrees with you is a brainwashed sheep or whatever you tell yourself. CERTAINLY don’t start to wonder what if everyone disagreeing with you might actually just be because your opinions are dumb, that’s a dark road to go down! 😂

        • demvoter
          34•11 months ago

          So you are pissed at Hillary for not winning but then say she would have been the same as trump. Wut

        • @Zozano@aussie.zone
          24•11 months ago

          Really? After 8 years of witnessing Trump being a politician you think that Hilary would have been no better? I doubt she would have ended up facing the DoJ.

          I too wanted Bernie.

        • @doggle@lemmy.world
          24•11 months ago

          Be reasonable. I supported Bernie too, but I don’t think Hillary would have plotted an insurrection…

        • @Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
          11•11 months ago

          Also wanted Bernie, and fuck the DNC for propping Hillary up the way they did, which yeah basically handed the presidency to Trump on a silver platter… but you’re out of your fucking mind if you thing she’d have been just as bad. She would have been -okay-, which is orders of magnitude better than Agent Orange.

    • girlfreddy
      34•11 months ago

      @donut4ever @jeffw

      And fuck the DNC for manipulating shit so Bernie lost out on being the candidate instead.

      This whole motherfucking thing could have been avoided if the DNC had just kept their fucking machinations to themselves … cause Bernie would have won.