• @zepheriths@lemmy.world
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    221 year ago

    The two aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive. It’s just that capital would grow slower. You can have a green capitalism. It just that no one invested in that

    • The problem is externalities. Companies have to be held responsible for their damage.

      If governments held companies liable for the full cost of fixing their damage to humanity and earth I honestly don’t know how many would be left.

    • @Kellamity@sh.itjust.works
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      41 year ago

      “Green capitalism” only exists if green energy is more profitable than climate-harming alternatives

      Given the multiple decades of oil and gas infrastructure, that’s not realistic.

      In theory, consumer demand for green energy could make this a reality, but it would have to be a massive swing. And in practice, most consumers will go for the cheapest option - in many cases, given their resources, they have to.

      The other way that green energy could become more profitable is through heavy government regulation. So… yeah you could have a green ‘capitalism’ if the State manages the market, and withstands the corporate pressure to withdraw. But that has literally happened nowhere

      I suppose hypothetically you could argue that IF a company invested heavily in green technology and IF that investment resulted in a cheaper form of energy, AND that technology also applied to the supply chain, then we could have green capitalism. But i mean that’s highly speculative and it also would be entirely a coincidence