There are many political and ideological dividing lines in British life, but perhaps the deepest and most damaging is that which was on show at the Weekend Truth Festival - when one part of the population rejects the others' view of reality.
This was one of many strange moments I witnessed at the three-day event, officially called the Weekend Truth Festival (WTF), that some may call a conspiracy theory gathering.
As well as being called out by Hopkins, I saw children chanting anti-vax slogans and had a magnet applied to my arm to prove my COVID vaccinations are the antenna of a bioweapon.
WTF indeed.
And Matt Le Tissier? Is he “doing an Icke”?