• HubertManne
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    77 months ago

    im not sure I would call the last point anxiety. As existential threats go its not like nuclear war. Which might or might not happen based on our actions. Its something that is definately happening and extreme good action by us might mitigate it but we by and large have been taking worse actions or at best our beneficial vs non beneficial actions cancel each other out. Heck even without climate change pollution alone has the same ending.

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      7 months ago

      “apprehensive uneasiness or nervousness usually over an impending or anticipated ill : a state of being anxious” -Merriam Webster

      Nothing about the word ‘anxiety’ implies that it’s an unrealistic or irrational feeling. You might be thinking of phobias.

      • HubertManne
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        07 months ago

        Its happening now though. Its like being anxious about walking down a dark alley because you might get the shit beat out of you as opposed to being anxious about the medical bills you will have while your getting the shit beat out of you.

          • HubertManne
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            27 months ago

            yeah. I guess is are they not having it because of anxiety about the future or the fact its a reality now and the future effects are just reality. Is facing reality anxiety?

            • @HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world
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              I’m just saying that accepting your definition of anxiety being tied to apprehension, anxiety about the climate is still valid.

              I would say your definition is correct, but your application is extremely limited. The anxiety is about things getting worse, it’s a vague nebulous feeling that can apply 1ms in the future or several decades. Or even about finding out past information in the future (the unknown). Or just not knowing what the future holds.

              So yes, being super pedantic, you can’t really be anxious about the literal state of the literal climate literally right now, but it’s instead about the possible future outcomes and events. But it’s very commonly understood that when someone says they’re anxious about climate change, they don’t mean it in the super pedantic literal way

              • HubertManne
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                17 months ago

                this has actually benn really interesting for me and im now evaluating how I think of both depression and anxiety.

        • androogee (they/she)
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          7 months ago

          They specifically said they were talking about how bad it would get in the future, and the future is definitely not happening now.

          But also, pay attention to the word “usually” in the definition i quoted.

          If you think that one cannot be anxious about something happening right the fuck now, then you don’t know much about anxiety. Which is not a slam, I’m mostly jealous.

          • HubertManne
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            17 months ago

            Im starting to get it. the phrase just to me sounds like its more about a possibility but the replies make me get it. I definitely get anxiety from current circumstances although I guess both my wife and I were discussing that with our depression. Its not like it can be cured because it comes from our current circumstances and often you think about like diagnosis and medication and its like how is that going to help when there are external factors. We think of it as more anxiety/depression for no reason or for reasons that should not cause them.