• @deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    6 months ago

    Smuggling is always the smugglers fault.

    That he’s an irresponsible gun owner too is just the cherry on top.

    • @specialdealer@lemm.ee
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      -96 months ago

      You keep using that word. It isn’t smuggling, it is forgetting a round of ammo in a bag. Your view on this is extreme. There is nuance in the world…

      • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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        146 months ago

        And this is why drug cartels use cute white women as mules - to skate by on “It’s for personal use” excuses if they get caught.

        • @specialdealer@lemm.ee
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          -116 months ago

          Also a really fucking stupid take? It should always be based on the facts of the case, not the color of skin or gender. If a cute white woman is carrying guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo punish away.

                • @specialdealer@lemm.ee
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                  -66 months ago

                  Have you ever been to the range? How much ammo did you use? If you wanted to smuggle and sell ammo into another country for money, how much would you bring? Would you bring your wife and book a vacation stay?

              • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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                46 months ago

                Yea, but I don’t have solid evidence either way since I’m not on the ground there - what makes you so certain these people weren’t smugglers? What part of this story has you so willing to go to bat for them?

                • @specialdealer@lemm.ee
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                  Then you should try reading the article. It describes 4 of the recent cases. In those cases people were not found with guns and had 2, 2, 4, and 20 rounds of ammo respectively.

                  Go to the gun range once and you’ll understand that’s not smuggling ammunition for criminal use. That’s an oopsie I forgot that was in that bag.

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        6 months ago

        He packed his own contraband in his own bag and brought it to a foreign country.

        That’s the definition of smuggling.

          • @EisFrei@lemmy.world
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            126 months ago

            The Oxford dictionary definition:

            smuggling noun

            the illegal movement of goods into or out of a country. “cocaine smuggling has increased alarmingly”

            • @specialdealer@lemm.ee
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              -96 months ago

              You see how it says “illegal” there? In smuggling cases there has to be this other thing called “intent” for it to have been illegal.

              If a Mexican gets some codeine at a Mexican pharmacy, forgets it in their bag, and flies into the USA we don’t pay tax money to imprison them for years. We take it, ban them, and send them back.

              Why? Because they are careless, not smugglers.

              • @breakingcups@lemmy.world
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                86 months ago

                The law does not universally require “intent”, I might not intend to speed in my car or fuck a 17 year old, but if it happens I am still responsible.

                • @specialdealer@lemm.ee
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                  You missed the part where I wrote “in smuggling cases”.

                  ETA: you also listed examples that do require intent… like omg I accidentally fucked a 17 year old.

                  Or omg my car just drove itself too fast.

                  What? Think then type.

              • @EisFrei@lemmy.world
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                But why would you ban them, if they didn’t do anything illegal?

                You basically confirm that it is illegal. Now it’s just about the punishment.