Climate activists from Last Generation disrupted Munich airport by gluing themselves to a runway, leading to flight cancellations and delays over a busy weekend.

Climate activists from Last Generation disrupted Munich airport by gluing themselves to a runway, leading to flight cancellations and delays over a busy weekend.

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    • @InternetPerson
      10•7 months ago

      a. self-mangling is a good way to discourage sympathy or participation b. disrupting a bunch of random travelers, and actually endangering them […] not helpful in getting sympathy for the cause… just press coverage… which will be mostly negative. […]
      it’s so fucking stupid and counter productive

      The jury is still out on that. I’ve found research and surveys pointing in both directions. The positive and negative effects of such forms of protest are not sufficiently studied yet. Also historically, there are good examples for both.

      Therefore, I wouldn’t judge yet.

      actually endangering them because planes are in the air and need to land

      From what I know about that activist group, they always ensure safety. On street blockages, they make room for ambulances, they also inform emergency services.
      I haven’t looked it up for this case, but I can imagine, that they considered this.
      I think, planes usually have enough fuel to land at another airport for such cases. There are emergency protocols for stuff like that anyway. So no one is really endagered here. Just inconvenienced.

      c. there are a lot more direct ways to cause disruption, and a lot more sympathetic, less self-harming tactics to get press coverage

      What do you have in mind?

      e. did i mention it even fucks up the activists physically!!!

      Not really though.
      Despite that, every member knows the risk. They know what they are doing. They are not stupid and think about such protest actions thoroughly.

        • @InternetPerson
          3•7 months ago

          i don’t need to present an alternative to glueing yourself to things….

          I’ve had this kind of talk a lot of times. And when it actually comes to “those alternatives”, which critics say activists should pursue instead, one common reaction is silence, as they are lacking ideas about those.
          I’ll leave you with that.

          the jury is not out on that…

          As far as I know, it is. If there are new studies, which I don’t know of and which come to a clear conclusion, I’d be thankful if you could link them here.

          and i don’t really care about your opinions pretending like you’ve read research about how effective gluing yourself to things it….

          Well, that’s your decision. If you don’t believe in facts, then don’t. But then it’s not surprising if people call you out on that, if you don’t provide proof for your position.
          If you’re interested – which you don’t seem to be – I’ll happily share the studies, historical examples, reports and surveys I’ve collected on that topic.

          it’s honestly pretty fucking evil of you to promote it.

          I didn’t promote it. Maybe you can explain what gave you the impression?

          nobody should hurt themselves to spread your political message.

          I agree that nobody should hurt themselves. Although I can understand if people see themselves driven to such measures out of desperation and/or in order to prevent worse.
          Regarding that activist group “Letzte Generation”, I couldn’t find any reports about injuries due to glueing.

          Also I wonder where you get the “your political message” from as I didn’t make any statement about my political stance on that.

    • @Teppichbrand@feddit.de
      7•7 months ago

      No it’s not. If there was a right way to protest everyone would do it. But protest is always messy, some people will hate you, some will applaude you. So choose something and try it. Or sit on the couch and comment on the internet like you are not part of the collapse thats coming.
      The opposite of love is not hate but indifference. Indifferent to the problem and indifferent to the solutions.

            • @Teppichbrand@feddit.de
              2•7 months ago

              I was trying to tell a VERY brief story of 50 years of protest that did not change anything, co2 just rises. So people try new stuff.
              But I agree, this topic is too complex for a random internet fight not even in my native language. Had to look up sealioning, what are you talking about?! I am not awful, you are the one throwing around insults. Am I debating 17 year olds again?

              • @InternetPerson
                2•7 months ago

                After reading through several of their comments and having engaged in a discussion with them myself, I get the impression that they don’t care about respectful and civilised discussions and I think it’s possible they are trolling. As they also resort to throwing insults around, evading questions and not really showing interest in conducting a line of arguments, it’s probably best to disengage.

            • @silence7@slrpnk.net
              2•7 months ago

              People have done all the things you propose. Repeatedly. It maybe gets some minor local attention, and a police crackdown, but hasn’t changed much of anything. That’s why people have resorted to stuff like putting soup on the glass protecting artworks or gluing themselves to runways.