We all need to move on from this, including myself.
We know Reddit’s business practice. If we don’t like it help make the fediverse better. Having said that your posts will be scrapped over here to the benefit of nobody so is that better? At least on Reddit you have the option of owning their stock.
Owning any stock has nothing to do with your content being held hostage. When you and I made the posts on there (I have to assume) we made this for the benefit of everyone. We didnt know that LLMs would come to pass and gobble up our stuff but you can technically make your own LLM and gobble it up yourself. The only problem I have with this one and all other „reddit sells your data to…“ is that its not reddit‘s to sell (legal bla bla, I mean I never agreed to it being sold) and if its reddits to sell, its also mine to sell.
I know thats not how the corporate owned legal shitshow works but it is why I dont mind anyone scraping lemmy or mastodon. Everyone can do it which makes it worthless for one party. The control to access is what creates worth, which is why we need to abandon all proprietary media asap.
I don’t really care if content I create is used to train LLMs, but I do object to Reddit monetizing the content I placed on their platform. Without somehow rewarding me for that content. I’d rather just post it here and let the LLMs train on it and let the value accumulate to the LLMs.
I do think there’s a greater good for humanity.
And just because I say something intelligent or unintelligent, I see that as a gift to the greater good of society. I did not create that gift as a benefit to Reddit shareholders but having said all this I’m realistic, and the best thing I can do is try to keep the value I add within open platforms like this one.
Now I‘d like to add that your idea is much better suited for the fediverse than reddit because nobody can control which LLM reads your data and therefore gives the „greater good for humanity“ to exactly that: humanity, instead of some corporation making money off of it.
We all need to move on from this, including myself. We know Reddit’s business practice. If we don’t like it help make the fediverse better. Having said that your posts will be scrapped over here to the benefit of nobody so is that better? At least on Reddit you have the option of owning their stock.
I disagree very strongly.
Owning any stock has nothing to do with your content being held hostage. When you and I made the posts on there (I have to assume) we made this for the benefit of everyone. We didnt know that LLMs would come to pass and gobble up our stuff but you can technically make your own LLM and gobble it up yourself. The only problem I have with this one and all other „reddit sells your data to…“ is that its not reddit‘s to sell (legal bla bla, I mean I never agreed to it being sold) and if its reddits to sell, its also mine to sell.
I know thats not how the corporate owned legal shitshow works but it is why I dont mind anyone scraping lemmy or mastodon. Everyone can do it which makes it worthless for one party. The control to access is what creates worth, which is why we need to abandon all proprietary media asap.
I don’t really care if content I create is used to train LLMs, but I do object to Reddit monetizing the content I placed on their platform. Without somehow rewarding me for that content. I’d rather just post it here and let the LLMs train on it and let the value accumulate to the LLMs. I do think there’s a greater good for humanity. And just because I say something intelligent or unintelligent, I see that as a gift to the greater good of society. I did not create that gift as a benefit to Reddit shareholders but having said all this I’m realistic, and the best thing I can do is try to keep the value I add within open platforms like this one.
Great that we are on the same side here.
Now I‘d like to add that your idea is much better suited for the fediverse than reddit because nobody can control which LLM reads your data and therefore gives the „greater good for humanity“ to exactly that: humanity, instead of some corporation making money off of it.