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  • @tehciolo@lemm.ee
    15•5 months ago

    I think you missed the part where you were strongly suggested “not” to use copyrighted text.

    The point is not to get rid of the original text. It’s to “poison” the training data.

    • FaceDeer
      -2•5 months ago

      If the AI trainers have the original text then “poisoning” the live site’s content isn’t going to do anything at all.

      You can’t touch the original text. It’s already been archived.

      • @tehciolo@lemm.ee
        7•5 months ago

        If they scrape the updated comments again and ingest copyrighted text, you are poisoning the data.

        • FaceDeer
          2•5 months ago

          That’s my point. They won’t.

          And even if they did, it’s unclear that copyright has anything to say about AI training anyway.

          • @InternetPerson
            6•5 months ago

            NYT is currently suing because of copyright infringiments.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/business/media/new-york-times-open-ai-microsoft-lawsuit.html

            it’s unclear that copyright has anything to say about AI training anyway

            Although lawmakers worldwide have slept while AI advanced and therefore missed to make some important laws, they are catching up. Europe recently passed its first AI act. As far as I’ve seen it also states that companies must disclose a detailed summary of their training data.

            https://www.ml6.eu/blogpost/ai-models-compliance-eu-ai-act

            • FaceDeer
              1•5 months ago

              You can sue about anything you want in the United States, it remains to be seen whether the courts will side with them. I think it’s unlikely they’ll get much of a win out of it.

              A law that requires disclosing a summary of training data isn’t going to stop anyone from using that training data.