I couldnt be happier to be proven wrong! I based too much weght on my earlier experience of mainstream feminism (as limited and inacurate it may be). Historical feminism, I havent seen much media where the additudes and beliefs arent revised by modern mainstream feminists so I give the benifit of the dought.
The fact that I deeply relate to the struggles depicted in The Incel to Trans Pipeline and Inside Mari
(0:50:51 talks about her university library, ive included a transcription, please read it).
as well as the idea that there is a thing called a TURF, and if your trans, its in your best interest to not make that known to them.
Being a closeted trans woman, seeing mainstream feminism and asking “how are they going to treat me? Will they accept me? Will they believe that I still stink of patriarchy? (and in practice deny transition is even possable)” It brings a lot of anger that I know is unjust to apply to a label as broad and fuzzy as “Feminism”.
I know for trans media,
the mainstream warps what is allowed to be presented, same for Communism, (see, any communist political party in amarica, also Mccarthyism)
I relized it was probable that the same is true for Feminism. But now I have conformation that my old working theory that the movement was dead wasnt forked when it was userped was wrong.
In a sense, all this stuff, the trans community, the feminist community (for lack of a better word) and orthers, and their resources are burried under knowing where to go, what to type in an what links to visit. (search “trans” on youtube and all you will get is slop)
transcription (TODO: clean up spelling, 2nd proofread)
even in 2010, in Texas, my university library had a small but respectable LGBT section, and I began spending most of my time between classes there reading anything I could about gender non-conformity and trans issues. As I learned more and more, I hit a wall. The way trans people were described in these books, the words they used had this deeply solitified sense that their soul was female. as children they wore their moms high heals, they even said they were girls to their family. Even with the amount of disphoria I was going through, I didnt have any such certanty. It was complicated by the feeling that I wasnt really trans. That I was tricking myself into trying to ligitimizing somthing that was just a fetish. I loved womans bodies, I knew I desired them, and also wanted to live as one but couldnt amagine myself within one. There is somthing so pleasimg about one, there was somthing so pleasing about the thoght, somthing so indulgent that it felt preverse. As I read more and more, I took in 2nd wave feminist ideology and began to internalize it. What if I was just a socially dissaffected male who’s desire to control woman was distorted inwardly? What if I was apropriating woman’s bodies by wanting to become one?
Thanks for the “pipeline” link, I’ll be sure to check that out!
I don’t doubt that there must have been “feminist” material you would come across (esp. 2nd wave feminist / TERF material) that would have ranged from exclusionary to mindfuck to further problems I can’t even imagine. I guess this is why an intersectional approach is important. 🥰
I couldnt be happier to be proven wrong! I based too much weght on my earlier experience of mainstream feminism (as limited and inacurate it may be). Historical feminism, I havent seen much media where the additudes and beliefs arent revised by modern mainstream feminists so I give the benifit of the dought.
The fact that I deeply relate to the struggles depicted in The Incel to Trans Pipeline and Inside Mari (0:50:51 talks about her university library, ive included a transcription, please read it). as well as the idea that there is a thing called a TURF, and if your trans, its in your best interest to not make that known to them.
Being a closeted trans woman, seeing mainstream feminism and asking “how are they going to treat me? Will they accept me? Will they believe that I still stink of patriarchy? (and in practice deny transition is even possable)” It brings a lot of anger that I know is unjust to apply to a label as broad and fuzzy as “Feminism”.
I know for trans media, the mainstream warps what is allowed to be presented, same for Communism, (see, any communist political party in amarica, also Mccarthyism) I relized it was probable that the same is true for Feminism. But now I have conformation that my old working theory that the movement
was deadwasnt forked when it was userped was wrong.In a sense, all this stuff, the trans community, the feminist community (for lack of a better word) and orthers, and their resources are burried under knowing where to go, what to type in an what links to visit. (search “trans” on youtube and all you will get is slop)
transcription (TODO: clean up spelling, 2nd proofread)
TODO: Spelling, mobile doesnt have it.
Thanks for the “pipeline” link, I’ll be sure to check that out!
I don’t doubt that there must have been “feminist” material you would come across (esp. 2nd wave feminist / TERF material) that would have ranged from exclusionary to mindfuck to further problems I can’t even imagine. I guess this is why an intersectional approach is important. 🥰