• @Rakonat@lemmy.world
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    698 months ago

    Why the fuck does my appliance need wifi? It’s not ordering refills for consumables when low at a great discount nor is it going to schedule it’s own maintenance as it passes lifetime milestones or detects errors.

    I don’t want my fucking washer/dryer to text me when the load is done and I definitely don’t want my fridge to alert me I’m low on milk or bread, or the door is open. That’s such a huge backdoor for anyone looking to maliciously gather data and peer into my life, definitely without my consent.

    • Phoenixz
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      408 months ago

      If, just for fucking once, they could use fully open source software to send that information directly to my mobile phone instead of using black box software to send all my info their corporate overlords, we might talk.

      In principle these things aren’t directly a bad idea. The fact that these asshats inserted themselves in the process is.

    • Altima NEO
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      128 months ago

      My fucking washer has NFC and I cant even figure out why I would ever need that, let alone WiFi?

      Features for features sake, I guess? Another bullet point on the features list.

      • @royalbarnacle@lemmy.world
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        98 months ago

        It’s not very useful. But, I can start a program from an app which is a lot easier than understanding all the little logos on the unit. Plus I have more flexibility to tweak it, like be faster or gentler or schedule it to cheaper electricity hours all much more easily and intuitively than in the panel.

        Also timer, remote start, and letting me know when it’s done are something I might use once in a blue moon.

        Can I live without it, hell yes, but is it a totally useless gimmick… Well 50/50.

        • @Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          8 months ago

          I don’t get the remote start, you should never start them if you’re away from your home. Gonna flood or burn your house down.

            • @Pretzilla@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              Electric dryer can still catch fire on heat mode by lint accumulation that blocks air flow.

              Rather safe on no heat mode, though.

            • @Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              18 months ago

              Funnily enough static discharge is common in dryer house fires regardless of the type of dryer you have. It’s usually the lint that gets set on fire.

    • @Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
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      68 months ago

      I have my washer and dryer on an isolated network. It’s actually useful to be able to tell if they’re done without walking to the other end of the house to check.

      • @Rakonat@lemmy.world
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        158 months ago

        Seems entirely unnecessary. My units have buzzers that go off when they complete a cycle. I also have a phone with a timer setting, I know a load of laundry will take approx 60min to accomplish per machine. I don’t see the need to spend my time and money to create a more complex system.

        • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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          28 months ago

          My laundry machines are in the basement, and my current machines play a pleasant jingle when they’re done, instead of a loud buzzer. I can’t hear them. I wish there was a setting to go back to buzzer mode

          Of course they also have reliable timers so I usually set my watch timer when I start the machines. Done

      • @S_204@lemm.ee
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        58 months ago

        How freaking big is your house? I’m in a rather large 3500+ sqft across 3 levels and I really never struggle to hear if the laundry is running and it’s isolated in its own room on one corner of the house… behind a solid wood door too.

        • @Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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          38 months ago

          My washer dryer are old fashioned and I live in a 1100sq ft home and can hear when the machine is running. And my dryer has a buzzer. So I think I will just not buy one with wifi.

        • @Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
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          28 months ago

          The laundry is next to the garage and I work from the exact opposite end of the house.

          Is also a front loader that’s pretty quiet even when spinning.

        • @AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world
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          28 months ago

          I’m in less than half your size and am two floors away from my washer. Not everyone has a nicely designed home.

          That said, I generally buy the simplest appliances I can.

      • Altima NEO
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        48 months ago

        Yeah, Im starting to think I need to set up a vlan for my iot devices, but its also a bit out of my league in terms of complicatedness.

      • @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        28 months ago

        You know looking at a clock and realizing an hour passed and its done is free, and easy to accomplish with the features already built into your phone and most houses.

        • @Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
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          18 months ago

          I have a front loader that takes anything from 1.5 - 3 hours depending on water temperature, load size etc.

          It may tell me 2 hours when I start it, and still be going 2 hours 20 minutes later.

          The dryer next to it is even worse when it comes to guessing duration, so having a notification pop up next to me is helpful.

      • @Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de
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        18 months ago

        My machine shows how long the program takes when I start it. Why it needs a message when it is finished? I know the time.

        • @Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
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          18 months ago

          Mine does too but can run up to 45 minutes over time depending on how it adjusts the load, water temp etc.

          The dryer is a sensor heat pump dryer so I have zero idea whether it’s going to take 30 minutes or 2 hours.

          It’s a feature I find useful, I can isolate it on my network and I didn’t pay extra for it.

          Seems weird to be defending it.