Exclusive: Territory’s government calls for visit to listen to those thought to be living with consequences of forced fitting of IUDs

The Danish health minister should “get on a plane and visit” some of the thousands of women thought to be living with the consequences of being forcibly fitted with the contraceptive coil as children, Greenland’s gender equality minister has said.

In an attempt to reduce the population of the former Danish colony, at least 4,500 women and girls are believed to have undergone the medical procedure, usually without their consent or knowledge, at the hands of Danish doctors between 1966 and 1970 alone.

The total number of those affected by the procedures, thought to have continued for decades, is understood to be far higher. Victims and their lawyers say generations of Inuit women were left traumatised and suffering reproductive complications, including infertility, as a result of the Danish state’s policy.

Earlier this month, a group of 143 women sued the Danish state over the alleged violations, but they have yet to receive a response from the government, despite the Danish prime minister visiting Greenland – now an autonomous territory of Denmark – soon after.

  • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
    1•9 months ago

    Were these supposed to be trick questions?

    It’s not especially harmful to white people to be denigrated for who they are…?

    I already said it wasn’t harmful to them, yes. But also, “White” is not an identity, as I have already said. It is a fucked up political category that serves to say, “these people are not any of the racialised categories”. That’s what I said at the start - it is only an exclusionary category. It does not identify any particular set of cultural or ethnic groups. There is no such thing as “white culture”. There is Norwegian culture, British culture, Texan culture, etc, but no white culture. Black culture, on the other hand, very much does exist, because black people as a group have been forced to construct a culture in response to their racist oppression.

    If society as a whole wasn’t horrifically anti-Black in its racism, would it then be okay to use anti-Black slurs? Because it wouldn’t be ‘especially harmful’?

    Blackness as a concept was invented by racists for racist purposes. Anti-black slurs wouldn’t exist without that, so you couldn’t use them.

    • PugJesus
      2•9 months ago

      I already said it wasn’t harmful to them, yes.

      That’s a fucked up thought.

      . But also, “White” is not an identity, as I have already said. It is a fucked up political category that serves to say, “these people are not any of the racialised categories”. That’s what I said at the start - it is only an exclusionary category. It does not identify any particular set of cultural or ethnic groups. There is no such thing as “white culture”. There is Norwegian culture, British culture, Texan culture, etc, but no white culture. Black culture, on the other hand, very much does exist, because black people as a group have been forced to construct a culture in response to their racist oppression.

      So as long as the category is artificial, you can denigrate ancestry all you want?

      Blackness as a concept was invented by racists for racist purposes. Anti-black slurs wouldn’t exist without that, so you couldn’t use them.

      You’re dodging the question.

      I’m done here. It’s incredibly shitty, and left-spaces should really fucking know better. But hey. Mixed-race folk always get the short-end of the stick. Why should left-spaces be any different, right? Cracker signing off, I guess.

      • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
        1•9 months ago

        It was an honest answer to the question, but I’ll answer in a different way: yes, in the world you imagined, anti-black slurs would be fine because they wouldn’t exist. It’s telling that you had to basically turn the entire world of racial politics entirely upside-down to get to that conclusion.

        In contrast - and this is a very simple concept - the term “cracker” doesn’t hurt me in the slightest, and I’m the pastiest white person you ever did see. The fact it hurts you so badly shows you that the anti-white sentiment that exists in the discrimination you face specifically hurts you because you are not actually white.

        You’re here banging on about anti-white racism and you want to pretend you’re on the left? Read a book.

        EDIT: Start with an article at least: https://www.vu.edu.au/about-vu/news-events/news/what-is-reverse-racism-and-whats-wrong-with-the-term

        • PugJesus
          1•9 months ago

          In contrast - and this is a very simple concept - the term “cracker” doesn’t hurt me in the slightest, and I’m the pastiest white person you ever did see.

          “It doesn’t hurt me, therefore, it doesn’t hurt anyone like me.”

          The fact it hurts you so badly shows you that the anti-white sentiment that exists in the discrimination you face specifically hurts you because you are not actually white.

          Thank you for explaining my own experiences to me.

          Fucking ridiculous. How did you put it before? “Whitesplaining”?

          • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
            2•9 months ago

            Oh okay, so let’s listen to what other white people have to say on the matter.

            According to that article that I already linked you and which you apparently didn’t read:

            A representative US survey, conducted by PEW in 2019, found that around 12% of respondents believed “being white hurts people’s ability to get ahead in the country nowadays”. Among white Republicans, the proportion was 22%. It was only 3% among white Democrats.

            Reverse racism is such a fringe conservative belief that only a tiny minority of conservative white people even believe it, and amongst democrats it’s barely more than a rounding error.

            So only a tiny group of fringe reactionaries believe this bullshit, but here you are claiming it’s supposed to be a leftist position.

            That is fucking ridiculous.

            • PugJesus
              0•9 months ago

              A representative US survey, conducted by PEW in 2019, found that around 12% of respondents believed “being white hurts people’s ability to get ahead in the country nowadays”.

              Literally not even close to the issue I was addressing, but I’ve dealt with enough racists like you to know it’s hopeless.

              • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
                2•9 months ago

                Fucking hilarious. You have to be intentionally missing the point here.

                Also, be careful, because apparently pointing out racism is the real racism, and you accused me of “whitesplaining”, so apparently you were being anti-white racist, which I hear you really care a lot about as an issue.

                *Note for the mod who inevitably gets this as a disingenuous “racism” report, I am being sarcastic.

                • PugJesus
                  0•9 months ago

                  Also, be careful, because apparently pointing out racism is the real racism, and you accused me of “whitesplaining”, so apparently you were being anti-white racist, which I hear you really care a lot about as an issue.

                  If you couldn’t read the bitterness in

                  Fucking ridiculous. How did you put it before? “Whitesplaining”?

                  I can’t help you.

                  But anything to denigrate minorities who don’t have your views., huh? People like you only listen when it fits your preconceptions.

                  • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
                    2•9 months ago

                    You literally told me how this issue affects you as a mixed race person, and it clearly doesn’t affect white people.

                    Either you can put that together or you can’t. If you can’t, it’s because you don’t want to. I’m done here.